06-13-2018 05:53 PM
Ever have one of those moments where you feel completely misunderstood. Or you ask a question and the answer is in a language you don't understand. Ok maybe I didnt word my question properly, but time was running out on the chat so I rushed. I just want to know why a SNAD return request, that buyer later admits is as described and withdraws her return request, is a defect in my Performance rating. There was no return or refund. I went back to the case details and all the correspondence is there, so not sure what comment about "messages you removed" means. Anyone make sense of Trinton's answer. I feel so dense right about now.
06-13-2018 06:11 PM - edited 06-13-2018 06:13 PM
Many of eBay's policies are enforced and handled by software according to preset rules ... or by customer service minions who are not allowed to think for themselves.
Trinton is simply saying that the "system" does not remove the defect because it doesn't have that power. Only a human can remove a defect, so call customer service. You may need to file an appeal.
06-13-2018 06:38 PM
Thank you. That makes perfect Ebay sense. 🙂
I guess the wording "close in the seller's favor" in Trinton's response didn't compute because she kept her item and there was no refund. In my mind, it was already closed in the seller's favor. If Ebay is going to begin holding returns against us, they should offer a "withdraw cancellation request" option for buyers who genuinely make a mistake. The thought of wasting time dealing with CS to appeal something that never happened borders on ridiculous.
I genuinely appreciate you taking your time to explain it. Thanks 🙂
06-13-2018 11:18 PM
The thing to keep in mind is between now and Sept, this SNAD request actually is NOT a defect on your account nor does it in any way count against you in the eval stats.
But come Sept. it will be different and it is retroactive. In Sept. the mere fact that the SNAD was opened, not matter the reason or outcome, it counts against you. It is NOT a defect by itself. It becomes part of your Return Rate. That percentage if over a certain amount YTD, will then count against you. And depending on what your eval period is [90 days or 12 months], it is retroactive to cover that period of time.
So YES. Call Ebay and see if you can get this removed from your stats. Do that ANYTIME you have even the slightest chance of having one removed. Because come Sept. it could be very important. And if you are one of those unlucky sellers that gets downgraded to a Below Standard status, your FVF rates go up by about 40% until you get back to Standard and above.
06-14-2018 03:39 AM
Thank you. I will call CS. This was my first SNAD request. I have one other return request from July 2017 which I refunded because the plates arrived broken. With those two requests, my percentage is over 1.12.
I just checked my Performance chart to retrieve that percentage. I don't have any "Transaction Defects" just the defect on Return Rates. I guess I should call anyway. I enjoy my business and taking care of my buyers but this Performance minutiae is so confusing.
06-14-2018 10:11 AM
@Anonymous wrote:Thank you. I will call CS. This was my first SNAD request. I have one other return request from July 2017 which I refunded because the plates arrived broken. With those two requests, my percentage is over 1.12.
I just checked my Performance chart to retrieve that percentage. I don't have any "Transaction Defects" just the defect on Return Rates. I guess I should call anyway. I enjoy my business and taking care of my buyers but this Performance minutiae is so confusing.
YES you should call. Since the look back is 12 months, you just have no way of knowing what is going to happen in the future. You could suddenly get hit with 2 or 3 RRs. So ANYTIME there is even the slightest chance you can get on removed. Take the time and CALL. Try to get it removed.
Good Luck!
06-14-2018 10:52 AM
@Anonymous wrote:I went back to the case details and all the correspondence is there, so not sure what comment about "messages you removed" means. Anyone make sense of Trinton's answer. I feel so dense right about now.
I think it's just a simple brain fart, nothing more. I think he meant to write "messages you received" there. You said that the messages you received would show the buyer's error, so @Anonymous was saying that you should have them reviewed by CS in case those messages would prove your point.
06-14-2018 10:54 AM
So the first CS was no help. She is having the next tier call me. I explained about the upcoming FVF penalty if my RR is too high. Update: CS just called and said my return record cannot be removed even if buyer "withdrew" the request. Her supervisor informed her that FVF would not be raised based on RR--only visibility and placement affected. So are we talking apples and apples? Is it Return Rate RR or Transaction Defect Rate that will trigger higher FVF and lack of visibility/placement?
06-14-2018 11:04 AM
@Anonymous wrote:So the first CS was no help. She is having the next tier call me. I explained about the upcoming FVF penalty if my RR is too high. Update: CS just called and said my return record cannot be removed even if buyer "withdrew" the request. Her supervisor informed her that FVF would not be raised based on RR--only visibility and placement affected. So are we talking apples and apples? Is it Return Rate RR or Transaction Defect Rate that will trigger higher FVF and lack of visibility/placement?
@Anonymous
Well then, the only thing to do is tag Trinton and get his view on this issue. Maybe he will have another suggestion for you and us.
06-14-2018 03:30 PM
@Anonymous wrote:
Ever have one of those moments where you feel completely misunderstood. Or you ask a question and the answer is in a language you don't understand. Ok maybe I didnt word my question properly, but time was running out on the chat so I rushed. I just want to know why a SNAD return request, that buyer later admits is as described and withdraws her return request, is a defect in my Performance rating. There was no return or refund. I went back to the case details and all the correspondence is there, so not sure what comment about "messages you removed" means. Anyone make sense of Trinton's answer. I feel so dense right about now.
Hi @Anonymous, so sorry for the typo. It should read "messages you received reviewed for options." I apologize if you feel misunderstood, and I can reiterate that contacting Customer Service is your next best course of action to work on a resolution. Let me know if you need anything else!
06-14-2018 03:57 PM
Thank you for clarifying your chat answer and for your concern about me being misunderstood 🙂
I did call CS Ruby 1-162972460977. So the first CS was no help. She is having the next tier call me. I explained about the upcoming FVF penalty if my RR is too high. Update: CS just called and said my return record cannot be removed even if buyer "withdrew" the request. Her supervisor informed her that FVF would not be raised based on RR--only visibility and placement affected.
So are we talking apples and apples? Is it Return Rate RR or Transaction Defect Rate that will trigger higher FVF and lack of visibility/placement?
So is the CS information correct Trinton.