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abbylilyd · ‎12-11-2019

Sold a watch 40 days ago. 7 days after delivery The buyer said that the watch wasn’t working I expressed my concern and I was surprised because it was working fine when I packed it everything was very cordial I agreed to pay a portion of the cost of repairing.. but didn’t specify or agree to how much. buyer said they were going to get an estimate I asked for a copy of the estimate received it two weeks later it was $280 and the work had already been done. One reason I asked for the estimate was because I have a family jeweler and I wanted Her to take a look at what they were going to do and what it was going to cost my family jeweler was not going to charge me at all I explained this to the buyer and explained that I was shocked that it would be repaired without my consent with such a hefty price tag ..and said I wasn’t comfortable paying 180( that’s how much was demanded) when I never agreed to that amount nor was given an alternate option..now the buyer who is an attorney is threatening to sue me for the cost of the watch the cost of the repair and all of the legal fees this buyer lives in another state and is claiming I will have to come to their state for court. eBay says they have no case. PayPal says the same. Thoughts?

pabut_4870 · ‎12-12-2019

Tell them to F off.

jojitsusensei · ‎12-12-2019

I agree. He's abusing ebays sellers protection.
Tell him to go "F" himself.
This is just another reason why I'm done with eBay.

fab_finds4u · ‎12-12-2019

To offer to pay for a minor repair is reasonable. If the repair costs are not minor or more than the seller wants to pay they can ask the buyer to return it for a refund.

If the buyer authorized a third party to fix it then they are liable to the third party for the repair bill, not you.

They must not be a very good lawyer not to know that.

Looking inside the watch to see what's broken and what it costs to fix doesn't alter it. Replacing parts does. I feel like if they authorized the repairs then they accepted it broken and wanted to fix it and keep it. They should have negotiated the repair cost before fixing it. Then if the partial refund amount wasn't agreeable he could reject the broken watch and return it. You can offer what YOU think is fair partial refund and if that's not acceptable they can return it for a refund. Stick to that.

ed8108 · ‎12-12-2019

If he has represented himself as being an attorney, inquirey to verify that he is admitted to practice can easily be undertaken.

abbylilyd · ‎12-12-2019

@fab_finds4u Everything you just said is exactly what I assumed would happen
( get estimate, communicate, get approval or return.. common sense I thought 🤔). She told me in mid-November that she had an estimate for 260 to repair it I asked for a copy of the estimate after expressing dismay at how much it was ..she supplied the estimate December 7 but here’s the kicker the estimate was dated December 2 so how do you give me an estimated amount in November but a handwritten picture of an estimate dated Dec 2? I have NO words... and btw, after I told her she has no jurisdiction here, and to go ahead and sue... crickets. (Thank goodness) I would like to say.. that had she not been a self righteous pompous a-hole. I would have sent her 100. But now... she can “pound dirt”

albany_sellers · ‎12-12-2019

@abbylilyd wrote:
Sold a watch 40 days ago. 7 days after delivery The buyer said that the watch wasn’t working I expressed my concern and I was surprised because it was working fine when I packed it everything was very cordial I agreed to pay a portion of the cost of repairing.. but didn’t specify or agree to how much. buyer said they were going to get an estimate I asked for a copy of the estimate received it two weeks later it was $280 and the work had already been done. One reason I asked for the estimate was because I have a family jeweler and I wanted Her to take a look at what they were going to do and what it was going to cost my family jeweler was not going to charge me at all I explained this to the buyer and explained that I was shocked that it would be repaired without my consent with such a hefty price tag ..and said I wasn’t comfortable paying 180( that’s how much was demanded) when I never agreed to that amount nor was given an alternate option..now the buyer who is an attorney is threatening to sue me for the cost of the watch the cost of the repair and all of the legal fees this buyer lives in another state and is claiming I will have to come to their state for court. eBay says they have no case. PayPal says the same. Thoughts?

Nobody else is going to state the obvious? There is no repair quote, the watch never had any issue and he never took it anywhere to be looked at.

This guy is just trying to get a discount by saying that, it's the oldest trick in the book. "oh my god the item showed up broken but LOOK i have a quote from a repair shop! Plz give me money now!"

If he opens a case, well it's too bad he modified the item since he apparently had repairs done on it. His buyer protection is 100% void now and he can pi** right off.

abbylilyd · ‎12-12-2019

Thank you!! I am so irritated! Literally the SAME DAY this “Attorney” sent the “estimate”

( dec 7) A third-party hacked my eBay account and my PayPal account and bought two $500 phones so needless to say I am not playing nice( dealing with the aftermath of that insanity AND the “lawyer”)but I will say that eBay has been fantastic (so far crossing fingers..I may eat my words) in this matter. People like her really make me feel better about the fact that I’m kind of a freaking hermit..arghhhhh she had me SO worked up for TWO DAYS. Arghhh. Ty gang!!!you have all made me feel SO MUCH better about humanity

vintagecraze50 · ‎12-12-2019

This sounds like a TOTALLY BOGUS message sent from someone who wants to scam you out of a lot of money. Tell them to return for a refund. Buyers are not suppose to ALTER AN ITEM under any circunstances and then DEMAND that you pay for that.

vintagecraze50 · ‎12-12-2019

In my opinion, a REAL attorney would not conduct themselves in the fashion that they did with you. What you seem to have here is a Real brazen scammer who felt they could take advantage of your helpfulness.

vintagecraze50 · ‎12-12-2019

No, do not tell them to “F” OFF, just tell them to send off for a refund and that’s it folks, no more contact, no more anything.

abbylilyd · ‎12-12-2019

I did tell Her that It didn’t seem like we are going to reach an amicable solution that would make either of us happy ,So she should just return the watch and that’s when she responded with this: “This is a unique and rare item and as such I have the option to mitigate my damages and keep the item. You’re transacting business in Austin Tx by selling goods to Austin residents so I would be filing in Travis County and serving you with papers in Livonia. You will need to appear in court in Travis County.”. My question is how does she figure I’m transacting business in Austin? so that makes it feasible for her to sue me from Austin, because I am in Michigan selling to someone in Austin? I’m telling you Folks..she is an attorney she’s an entertainment attorney licensed in both Austin and Los Angeles and I am just flabbergasted that an attorney who can actually pass the California bar which is the hardest one to pass (so I’ve been told) ... would make such an error in judgment by threatening..Intimidating and all in all just being completely incorrect in her reasoning and logic and thinking?? Yeah.. With all the research I’ve done and the input I received here I feel like I could Pass the California bar if someone like that can pass it then most definitely it’s not THAT HARD

abbylilyd · ‎12-12-2019

I will also say that her all of a sudden silence after such intense threats is a little bit concerning I keep waiting for a knock at the door from a process server...

But then I think oh wait she said she was going to be serving me in Livonia.. and I don’t live in Livonia.. I live in a city about an hour away... smh.

lamber9347 · ‎12-13-2019

But she isn't making an error in judgement by saying what she did, she knows exactly why she is doing it. It is pure intimidation. She thinks she can throw some legal terms at you and you will cave, or that is her expectation. This is typical bully behavior and similar to a lawyer sending an intimidating letter. These are scare tactics and they work more than you think. She is a bully and simply trying everything she can to get you to fold.

I've read the entire thread and from your replies so you now know what to do. If this were happening to me personally I would pursue this with eBay and with reporting her. Why not? She is in the wrong on many levels and abusing her position. Absolutely no reason for her continued messages to you.

Please post any updates because you are also educating many others on this forum with the situation and outcome. Best of luck to you....