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iamalwaysright · ‎05-02-2023

Does it really matter much if a chronic non payer of auctions is allowed to buy from your IPR (immediate payment required) listing? Compared to all other buyers, are non payers typically just as problematic in other areas of the transaction other than they just don't pay?

coolections · ‎05-02-2023

Nevermind, I think you are overthinking what was written. If a person is blocked no need to even ask the question.

hurryagain · ‎05-02-2023

When I have a flake of a buyer, I put them on my blocked buyer list and keep their name and address on file for future reference just in case they try to purchase something from me under another ebay account.

I find that flaky buyers can pose a problem regardless of what type of buying that they do (bidding or BIN with IPR)...if they get buyers remorse, all they have to do is open an INAD case and you are on the hook for the refund and return cost of your item and they are sailin' free.

Nope. A flaky buyer IS a problem buyer IMO

chapeau-noir · ‎05-02-2023

When I used to do auctions/best offer, the non-payers were just that. They'd blow off paying and I'd never hear from them again. I never send invoices/messages for them to pay, I just have my settings to automatically cancel the sale and give the non-payer a strike, so they'd either pay or not and we had no other communication.*

*i.e., there was no other chance for them to display any other problems or cause concerns.

Hell is empty. And all the devils are here.

soh.maryl · ‎05-02-2023

So this is a chronic nonpayer of YOUR auctions? Otherwise, how would you know they were a chronic nonpayer? And, it should not be possible for this person's dereliction of duty to become chronic, because you would have blocked this buyer after the first episode, right?

iamalwaysright · ‎05-02-2023

@soh.maryl wrote:
So this is a chronic nonpayer of YOUR auctions? Otherwise, how would you know they were a chronic nonpayer? And, it should not be possible for this person's dereliction of duty to become chronic, because you would have blocked this buyer after the first episode, right?

No, I'm not in any situation like this. I was blocking a buyer (not for UPI reasons) and saw that buyer requirements section that I never really look at anymore. I was just wondering if non payers would be potentially more problematic post sale than the chances of any other buyer being problematic. Because they'd be on level playing ground if all a seller has is IPR listings and no auctions or best offers.

chapeau-noir · ‎05-02-2023

@iamalwaysright wrote:
@soh.maryl wrote:
So this is a chronic nonpayer of YOUR auctions? Otherwise, how would you know they were a chronic nonpayer? And, it should not be possible for this person's dereliction of duty to become chronic, because you would have blocked this buyer after the first episode, right?
No, I'm not in any situation like this. I was blocking a buyer (not for UPI reasons) and saw that buyer requirements section that I never really look at anymore. I was just wondering if non payers would be potentially more problematic post sale than the chances of any other buyer being problematic. Because they'd be on level playing ground if all a seller has is IPR listings and no auctions or best offers.

I think it would be tough to tell how much overlap there would be. Non-payment is an annoying but neutral situation: The 'buyer' just disappears for whatever reason. Being a PITA is very much an active situation where the buyer has to engage with the seller in order to be annoying.

ETA: IMHO, the overlap would probably be higher chance of cancellations in the UPI crowd. But I agree, you may be over-thinking this a bit.

Hell is empty. And all the devils are here.

pjcdn2005 · ‎05-02-2023

If your listings are ipr and you don't accept offers and don't do auctions then setting up the non payment blocks doesn't really seem necessary. There is no way of knowing if non payers tend to cause and I probably wouldn't assume that they do.

hurryagain · ‎05-02-2023

Non payment people are shoppers. I really don't want to deal with shoppers... I want to deal with BUYERS.

🙂

iamalwaysright · ‎05-02-2023

Since buyers no longer have a grace period to pay when they get a UPI, does ebay hound the buyer to pay up during those 4 days of waiting payment? I don't even know what buyers see as I've always just bought through IPR listings.

hurryagain · ‎05-03-2023

@iamalwaysright wrote:
Since buyers no longer have a grace period to pay when they get a UPI, does ebay hound the buyer to pay up during those 4 days of waiting payment? I don't even know what buyers see as I've always just bought through IPR listings.

Listings that don't have IPR... eBay does email the buyer a reminder to pay but it is up to the seller to either automatically set up the UPI or manually do it themselves.

I think that most BINs are IPR but there are some of us who do allow for buying multiple listings over a period of days... auctions and BINs together.

There used to be many who used to set up their listings this way but as more and more non paying buyers became a thing, most sellers went to IPR and I can't blame them.