05-01-2025 03:27 PM
Hi there
Any advice would be so greatly appreciated. It's our first time with this sort of issue. We took a video of a Disney music box we sold on here, packaged it very well and sold it with insurance on the freight cost using USPS. So now the buyer is telling us the item arrived shattered.
I've asked for a photo of the original packaging and the item itself, advising we may need to ask for it back.
But now the buyer is telling me that they would be fine with a partial refund as "not all the pieces are there."
I don't want to sound paranoid or accuse my dude of being a scammer but I just don't want to end up mis handling the whole thing.
Thank you in advance.
05-02-2025 03:54 AM
So not exactly "shattered"?
05-02-2025 04:26 AM
@kwiji43 wrote:*in my opinion.
For all the hassle of it I'm tempted to offer a partial refund of $20 rather than bring it back. I don't know if USPS will look at this and take it seriously.
I think your instincts are correct.
If the buyer sends the item back to you, my understanding is that USPS will not consider a claim.
The buyer is the one who has to take it to the post office and let USPS inspect the box it came in.
Probably best to not even go down that road with the buyer.
05-02-2025 05:37 AM
Hopefully, you double boxed that fragile item. Otherwise, you may have trouble collecting any insurance, due to 'insufficient packing'.
05-02-2025 05:39 AM
Aside from the good advice about your problem that you have been given above, I would like to ask why you are selling your items at auction? It looks like the couple of items you sold have only received one bid (and it looks like one of those was a re-list, not sure as I didn't read the description) and it looks like you may have a couple more ending that will only have one bid.
Auctions really don't work well anymore unless the item you have is rare, unique or highly collectible. Buyers don't like to have to wait a week for an auction to end, especially if it is an item they can buy from other sellers right now and have it in hand in a few days. It looks like your items would do better if you listed them at Buy it Now, listed at the price you would like to have for the item. You could try it with a few items to see if it makes any difference.
05-02-2025 01:30 PM
Thank you for all the helpful responses, everyone.
To answer some of the questions here, we wrapped it very carefully and covered it in bubble wrap. Took photos and a video to make sure anyone could see it was perfect, and put insurance on the shipping cost. We do have top seller status but it's not for trying. It's just that we have too much stuff and want to get rid of some of it.
This morning I woke up to find the buyer has requested a return. He has already said he doesn't have all the pieces for the part that broke, and that's extra suspect in my opinion because he never said the box was damaged. I really don't want to take back an item that is now defective and may not be repairable.
Not quite sure what to do now other than see if we can dispute it with eBay.
I was going to offer to send a partial refund just to work it out but
05-02-2025 01:31 PM
That was the bit that worries me because the buyer said they don't have the other part of the shell.
05-02-2025 01:33 PM
@kwiji43 wrote:Thank you for all the helpful responses, everyone.
To answer some of the questions here, we wrapped it very carefully and covered it in bubble wrap. Took photos and a video to make sure anyone could see it was perfect, and put insurance on the shipping cost. We do have top seller status but it's not for trying. It's just that we have too much stuff and want to get rid of some of it.
This morning I woke up to find the buyer has requested a return. He has already said he doesn't have all the pieces for the part that broke, and that's extra suspect in my opinion because he never said the box was damaged. I really don't want to take back an item that is now defective and may not be repairable.
Not quite sure what to do now other than see if we can dispute it with eBay.
I was going to offer to send a partial refund just to work it out but
Sorry for this news..
Sadly you can't really dispute it now that they opened the return. Was it for NAD/damage?
You can issue a label and refund them, get a broken item back.
OR just refund and let them keep it..
That's the only choices now..
05-02-2025 01:36 PM
It was a $400 item sadly. I do have no returns specified. Does that not help me here?
05-02-2025 01:42 PM
"It was a $400 item sadly. I do have no returns specified. Does that not help me here?"
Not with a not as described complaint.
05-02-2025 01:50 PM
So where's the missing part of the shell?
If they're asking for a partial refund, I would give them the partial refund and call it a day.
They will then miraculously find the missing part of the shell and glue it back on, and at least you didn't have to refund the whole thing.
05-02-2025 01:53 PM
I've sent a message asking if they found the missing part. Waiting to see what the answer is before I print a return label. Buyer has already initiated a return.
05-02-2025 02:20 PM
@kwiji43 wrote:It was a $400 item sadly. I do have no returns specified. Does that not help me here?
Oh my stars.. That's a lot..
I might have them ship it back and try to modify it myself for that amount of money.
If the part isn't there..
I'm sorry yikes..
But no, the others are correct with a not as described case there's no option.
Have to issue label and refund even with no returns. Very sorry..
05-02-2025 02:37 PM
wrote:
”Not quite sure what to do now other than see if we can dispute it with eBay”.
Sorry this happened to you. $400 is a big loss.
There is essentially no disputing this matter with eBay because of their buyer-centric policy regarding the Money Back Guarantee. The MBG overrides your No Return policy.
It is crucial for sellers to learn the rules that govern the site, to know the extent of risk being adopted by selling here. Without that knowledge, informed decisions on how best to handle matters like this cannot be made. Bring yourself up to speed so that you are as well-informed as the scammers are who know how to work the system. Knowledge is one of your best protections against buyer fraud. However, there is no 100% method to shelter oneself here.
Below are links to get you started. Good luck.
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/member-behaviour-policies/user-agreement?id=4259
05-02-2025 04:09 PM
Thank you for that!
We are just selling stuff we didn't really need or want to keep so didn't take it terribly serious. Though we have 290 sales and all of them were great to date. Maybe we were lucky until now.
The buyer lodged a return based on the item being damaged and mentioned they would be happy with a partial refund but I had ignored them. That was yesterday and catching up today. Anyway, I offered that partial refund instead of a return. But it is a nice music box. Even damaged I will try to get it back if I have to.
By the sound of it though I think I might be quite lucky so far. And to everyone who took time to answer, thank you so much
05-02-2025 07:10 PM - edited 05-02-2025 07:11 PM
@kwiji43 wrote:But now the buyer is telling me that they would be fine with a partial refund as "not all the pieces are there."
I hate to say this, but I'm starting to think that "not all the pieces are there" because they are hoping to swap a damaged example of theirs (with half the shell missing on top) for your complete example.
That particular example of damage doesn't look like the kind of thing that would be sustained in shipping. It looks more like something fell on it and cracked half the shell away, that piece apparently getting lost at some point afterward.
In addition, I'm looking at the photos of yours vs. the one photo from the buyer, and their damaged example looks cleaner than yours. In particular, if you look at the light blue area surrounding the brown fish that's immediately below the open oyster, your example (in your listing photos) shows some rough edges to the light blue area, as well as what looks like some dust and dirt buildup in crevices, where the buyer's photo shows a much cleaner and smoother finish. I'm not convinced that the buyer's photo shows the one that you actually sold.
Having said that, I don't know that there's much more you can do besides having the item shipped back to you. In a case like this, if the buyer is simply fishing for a small partial refund, I might give it to them, but if they're getting more obnoxious about it, I would be inclined to make them send it back first, before refunding. Not accepting returns (as stated in your listing) does not mean that you don't have to refund either, but you can still change your mind on that point and insist on a return first if you prefer.