05-21-2022 03:24 AM
Why is eBay allowing the sale of baby formula? Sellers are price gouging and the obviously are a big part of the shortage issue. eBay should be permanently shut down for this.
05-21-2022 06:00 AM
...this is not nonsense...it has been proven with my family at least...
...I don't post what I didn't experience...
...how could all the babies around the world survive in those countries don't have baby formula...yet, how could this world's population keep growing from the ancient time up to now...?
...what will all the mothers will do if one day there won't be any baby formula to feed her babies...? (not gonna let them die...)
05-21-2022 06:15 AM - edited 05-21-2022 06:17 AM
@bbravo65 wrote:...if all the mothers go back to the old time with breastfeeding, those formula companies will file bankruptcy...
It would be a shame if formula companies went bankrupt, because all mothers cannot breast feed - due to IGT, mastectomy, and other physical or medical issues. Some estimates put that number as high as 5%.
05-21-2022 06:16 AM - edited 05-21-2022 06:16 AM
@bbravo65 wrote:...if all the mothers go back to the old time with breastfeeding, those formula companies will file bankruptcy...
It would be a shame if formula companies went bankrupt. Because all mothers cannot breast feed due to IGT, mastectomy, or other physical or medical issues. Some estimates put that number as high as 5%.
05-21-2022 06:23 AM
During the peak of the pandemic, eBay was *very* proud of the systems they put in place to automatically block and remove listings that were price gouging on essential items, including baby formula - they wrote press releases about it and everything.
I asked in the weekly chat on May 11 if they plan to re-enable those systems to deal with the current formula supply crisis (providing screenshots showing just one example of a can of formula that is normally ~$19 being sold for almost $100) and got no response.
Before the chat closed, I asked once again and got....no response.
Normally the community crew will come back and answer questions they didn't get to after the chat closes but it's been 11 days and again still no response.
Maybe velvet@ebay will follow up here or if not, I guess the silence and eBay continuing to turn a blind away toward these price gouging listings can speak for itself.
05-21-2022 06:23 AM
This thread reminds me of a conversation in which I was involved with a humanitarian. I opined that if my blood type were extremely rare and it was needed to save lives, I would feel a moral obligation to share at an affordable price. In that I have type O+, the most common and a semi-universal donor, if I set a price of $1000 a pint, that is my business.
As I understand the formula problem, it is, in some situations, one of convenience. Am I correct?
05-21-2022 07:03 AM
As for other comments here, there's a lot I could say but in the interest of keeping it within the board rules I would simply ask for others to have some empathy.
There are many reasons parents may want or need to use formula. Yes for some it's a need due to medical issues etc. (I was one of those) and for some it is simply a choice for whatever their reasons - none of which are the business of anyone not directly involved in their situation.
Being a new mom is hard enough and those of us who have been there can attest there will be plenty of other things to second guess and feel guilty about along the way - how your baby gets the nutrition it needs to grow and thrive shouldn't be one of them.
This isn't some gaming system or luxury handbag that you can live without and it's not even necessarily easy to say "just buy a different brand" (again, I've been there. If you have a baby with allergies or sensitivities, this is no joke).
Regardless of your personal opinion about the best way to feed babies, I would hope we can all agree the important thing is that they do in fact get fed.
As I said in my previous post, eBay has recognized the "essential item" status of baby formula specifically in their written policies and in the past has taken action to address price gouging on these items automatically in emergency situations - there is absolutely no reason they can't do the same now.
05-21-2022 07:07 AM
No problem at all. I was just wondering the costs of it these days. I don't remember my mom using formula when I was a kid (5 younger siblings), but then again that was when Lincoln was in office...lol
Thanks for being so kind to reply. 😊
05-21-2022 08:00 AM
Walmart sells baby formula and the prices appear reasonable (I suppose, I really have no clue how much baby formula usually costs). https://www.walmart.com/search?q=baby+formula
Why anyone would buy something like this from a random stranger online baffles me. You have no idea who is selling this formula, where it came from and how it was stored. I assume anyone with access to a third party selling venue can also access reliable retailer websites like Walmart, Target, etc. Buy consumables from a trusted source, not random strangers on the internet.
05-21-2022 08:30 AM
@southern*sweet*tea wrote:Walmart sells baby formula and the prices appear reasonable (I suppose, I really have no clue how much baby formula usually costs). https://www.walmart.com/search?q=baby+formula
Why anyone would buy something like this from a random stranger online baffles me. You have no idea who is selling this formula, where it came from and how it was stored. I assume anyone with access to a third party selling venue can also access reliable retailer websites like Walmart, Target, etc. Buy consumables from a trusted source, not random strangers on the internet.
There are ongoing supply chain issues in play, international trade restrictions/regulations, and most seriously one of the largest factories in the US producing baby formula had a major recall back in February due to a certain kind of bacteria being found in products which not only took product off the shelves but also shut down production of new product at some locations.
All of that has lead to a situation where about 50% of the baby formula products that were on the market have been completely out of stock across much of the country. It's been all over most major news outlets if you Google it.
Just like the situation with toilet paper during the pandemic, some people who are able to still find these goods are buying as much as they can (I've seen listings here with pictures of literally pallets full of baby formula) and then reselling it for 4-5x or more what the regular retail price is.
So unfortunately right now, for many parents no it isn't as easy as just going to Target or Walmart, especially if your baby needs a specific kind of formula due to sensitivities or allergies.
05-21-2022 08:34 AM
The problem here could be that those trusted sources for baby formula may be out of it.
Don't know where you're located, but we see every day on the local news pictures of local stores, like WalMart, showing empty shelves where baby formula used to be shown.
05-21-2022 09:42 AM
Baby formula was banned shortly after hand sanitizers and mask were.
Report the listings for price gouging.
05-21-2022 11:07 AM
Even within a capitalist society, the concept of price gouging, relating to essential items, does exist and has nothing to do with communism.
The dog-eat-dog type of “supply and demand” you refer to is a product of late stage capitalism, and since you’re not part of the 1%, and even though you probably call everything left of hunting the homeless for sport communism, late stage capitalism does NOT work in your favor.
05-21-2022 11:37 AM
The grains of sand will end for those sellers on this platform. I'm surprised they haven't learned after all of the negative press about price gouging during the pandemic.
Hang in there!
05-21-2022 11:49 AM
@jp_graphics wrote:Well, eBay is a platform based on capitalism, just like the United States is a capitalist society, and you are spouting communist philosophy. So, perhaps you should remove yourself from ebay and find another platform. "Price gouging" is a term made up by communists. We call it supply and demand here in the USA.
😂Desert island economics.
05-21-2022 11:52 AM
@nocoolnamejane wrote:Even within a capitalist society, the concept of price gouging, relating to essential items, does exist and has nothing to do with communism.
The dog-eat-dog type of “supply and demand” you refer to is a product of late stage capitalism, and since you’re not part of the 1%, and even though you probably call everything left of hunting the homeless for sport communism, late stage capitalism does NOT work in your favor.
What people call gouging can help prevent hoarding though. Sure, can have a policy of only being able to buy 1 or 2, but there are ways around that. I might see something for a dollar and buy 10 just because I might need it. Whereas, I see something for $10, I might just buy one or two because I do need it.
In addition to that, who knows what that person actually paid for the item.