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After filing a complaint and police report, regarding the authentication facility for returning a valuable rookie card, that was a different card than sold, eBay placed retaliatory permanent suspension on my account.  My payments were put on hold, and conveniently the customer help email that I’ve been using to communicate with,eBay, now bounces back to say “it doesn’t accept incoming emails.”  How strange.  Now, I am unable to reach anyone to explain why my funds say available, but I can’t process them.  I’ve decided to obtain legal help.  I wanted to post this because it should be known, that the seller protection does not exist.  It’s more of a defamation of character.  Selling cards, accurately describing the item as not professionally graded, knowing I have to send it out to be authenticated, there wasn’t a thought to defraud anyone.  Authentication was free, for me, it was the way to go.  No harm, no foul.  

Grading is subjective and different graders will often disagree over the grading on an item. Scans are done in high quality for prior purchase review and we can email more pictures before purchase if requested, which I did. 

 

i am not  a professional grader, and so many hobbyists trust in the reputation and opinion of 3rd party professional graders. As a seller of graded and ungraded items, my responsibility is to accurately  describe and deliver the item as advertised; not to guarantee how an item will be assessed or graded by any individual or any grading company. Any issue a buyer has with an item's professional grade should be addressed with the grading person or the company that graded the item.  This is what was done.  

The fact that one valuable card returned to me was different than sent out, doesn’t warrant me to be a vicious seller.  I must protect myself as well.  The security  to protect others but not provide a policy of what is true to permanently suspend me and hold my funds for over a month is a scam and a swindle.  I will continue to fight for my seller rights and hope others will as well.  

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Did you contact Ebay about the return of an incorrect card before you contacted police? 

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Yes.  However, that email that now doesn’t take in incoming messages, kept giving me the run around.  I kept uploading and every upload there was an issue about “readability.”Everything was scanned and uploaded, it couldn’t be clearer.  After a month, I had to take other actions . $5k is a lot of money.  The police also agreed with me as it has had many complaints .  

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Yet another reason NOT to sell anything of real value on this site.  It's.almost like you gotta be willing to lose it or go through what you are about to go through and even that is no guarantee that you will get a favorable outcome.

 

I feel for you and others who get ripped off some very valuable merchandise.  I personally just wouldn't do it.  The risk is too high for my taste.

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Contact ebay for Business on Facebook.  The reps are USA reps, and work for ebay, they are also able to get things done.  Good luck on your selling journey.

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"Yet another reason NOT to sell anything of real value on this site."

 

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Learned my lesson. 

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@taz-2169 wrote:

 $5k is a lot of money. 


Sorry, but where does the $5,000 come into play? Is there a $5,000 balance in your proceeds that eBay hasn't released? Have you received a payout for any of your sold listings?

 

And are you saying a buyer returned the wrong card? Or did the authentication center return the wrong card?

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I sold a card, it was sent to be authenticated; it was returned to me for “inauthenticity” BUT the card sent back was completely different.  The $5k  is the amount it sold for.  

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I contacted the BBB which prompted a quick response, however, that is when they responded by permanently suspending my seller rights, but of course I could continue to buy.  I filed a demand ltr with an attorney. They will he in touch with them from now on.  

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Unfortunately, they became retaliatory when I complained, small claims court might be my next move.  Filed a demand ltr, if they don’t want to settle, I’m very serious about this.  

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I am just shocked that your selling limits ares so high just starting to sell.

Lift your left leg at midnight to start off on the right foot. Happy new Year!
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I assume you mean the 1951 Bowman Mantle rookie card. If so, there is enough wear on the card in your listing photos to make an easy comparison with the one received back from the eBay authenticator. If it was graded, it might get a grade of 2 from Beckett, which bumps it up to a $9000-$10,000 card. Just out of curiosity, did you have any problems getting the other cards you sold authenticated by ebay? That Cobb Cracker Jack is sweet. Did the police exam the card you received and compare it to your listing photos? Forged cards are definitely a problem in the hobby, but I think this eBay authentication process is ultimately going to diminish the market here as sellers become more and more hesitant to submit their high end cards to eBay, especially if stories like this one get more attention. Good luck with this!!!

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And again, your advice is completely contrary to ebays sole selling strategy for the future of the site.

 

Ebay wants more high dollar, high value sellers, and less low dollar, low value sellers.

 

Its the only strategy the upper mgmt has, besides inventing/increasing seller fees.

 

But while ebay wants this, ebay will not have the backs of sellers of high dollar items.  They sabotage their only strategy to save/grow the site.  Sellers of high dollar items will not sell here if ebay will not have their backs when buyer fraud occurs.  

 

Ebay does everything possible to hide buyer fraud from sellers and the world.  Ebay facilitates and encourages buyer fraud by its policies.  Ebay even said during their conference to someones question about buyer fraud, that buyer fraud simply does not occur.

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@rugerskick wrote:

But while ebay wants this, ebay will not have the backs of sellers of high dollar items.  They sabotage their only strategy to save/grow the site.  Sellers of high dollar items will not sell here if ebay will not have their backs when buyer fraud occurs.  

 

Ebay does everything possible to hide buyer fraud from sellers and the world.  Ebay facilitates and encourages buyer fraud by its policies.  Ebay even said during their conference to someones question about buyer fraud, that buyer fraud simply does not occur.


No argument from me about any of the above, but in this case, the OP is saying (in Message 9 above) that the authentication center rejected it, then sent back a different card; the actual buyer never received anything at all, and doesn't seem to be involved in this particular mess.

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