All the shadow banning threads are being closed "due to age."....LOL.

[stevemartin60]

eBay, you need to stop treating your most loyal long-term sellers with such blatant disrespect.  ALL ITEMS SHOULD BE LISTED WITH THE SAME VIEWABILITY.

If items must be "promoted" by forcing sellers to give up what little profit margin they may have left in this runaway inflationary economy, you will soon have no sellers left except your favored fraudsters, cheats, scammers, drop shippers, etc.

[stevemartin60]

...and what exactly is the "spin?"

Facts are facts no matter what apologists say about them.

I will not participate in that weird activity, and that is my choice.  You do what you want with your account.

[house*of*paws]

@blingfling123 

Sorry I didn’t see your reply before answering.  You did a much better job explaining this totally benign situation.  🙂

[stevemartin60]

LOL..and you just said it couldn't be happening.

That is it though.  I'm done responding to derailers.

[stevemartin60]

The GSP agreement does  NOT say..." we will take your falsely rejected items, resell them on eBay under a fake account pretending to be a regular eBay seller, use your photos and descriptions, and make you look like an idiot to our foreign buyers."

THAT WOULD BE ACCURATELY DESCRIBING what is going on, without spin.  (How much you wanna bet taxpayers get some kind of hit when Bowes falsely rejects stuff.  I wouldn't be surprised if Customs pays them something.)

eBay's spin is far worse than any of which I can be accused.

[blingfling123]

No worries at all, the more the merrier. Who knows, it might actually sink in. 

[stevemartin60]

LOL...my credibility?!  That's rich after you basically said I made the whole thing up, and then had to be shown how to find the truth for yourself.  You still owe me an apology.

[stevemartin60]

Isn't it cute how quickly these people spin from insisting "you're making it all up" to.... "we don't like how you chose to describe it.".... LOL.

Spinners be spinnin'....

Meanwhile, these "pay-to-play" policies are driving off newbies and hurting eBay's sales, user counts, and overall reputation, and not one of the fat cats who benefit from that top-down, fat-cat-enhancing operation wants to discuss that on a thread designed for THAT.

[1funkydude]

It’s also your choice to sell on eBay. You’ve made preposterous legal claims which are no more than the typical blowhard posts about business. The tired act where vague assertions are made such as eBay is going under or they’re going to lose all the sellers, or they should be sued, or their practices are illegal. But you take it a step further. Instead of just whining you mock those who tell you the truth with sophomoric attempts to discredit and belittle them by repeatedly referencing, in a mocking fashion, eBay’s designations of “rockstar” et al. This exposes you for what you really are: a weak, pathetic windbag compensating for his inadequacies and dealing with his frustrations by insulting others who dare to (correctly) disagree with him. No one is impressed by this act. 

[house*of*paws]

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@stevemartin60 wrote:

The GSP agreement does  NOT say..." we will take your falsely rejected items, resell them on eBay under a fake account pretending to be a regular eBay seller, use your photos and descriptions, and make you look like an idiot to our foreign buyers."

THAT WOULD BE ACCURATELY DESCRIBING what is going on, without spin. 

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@stevemartin60 

You continue to misrepresent the situation.

These listings actually describe accurately ‘what is going on’ in their Descriptions.  [I read several of them when this topic was first mentioned on the Boards long ago.]

The sellers are neither fake nor bogus.  Nor is there only one of them.

 
Misstated facts aren’t facts.  😐

[reallynicestamps]

For other reasons I was looking at the difference between my PL and my sales of PL last night.

About 35% of my listings are PL, mostly at 2%.

About 10% of my sales are PL, mostly at 2%.

I have no idea what this might mean.

I have observed, and anecdote is not data, that from time to time eBay will close some of my listings without notice. Usually these listing had been up for a long time. My items are long-tail and getting the 16month warning. I sold a book last month that had been listed since 2004.

Thanks for the post confirming that a large percentage of my items aren't even viewable when intentionally visiting my listings.

I see 115 listings.

What do "Well Listed" "Broadly Listed" or "HighlyListed" mean, and why do those terms deserve All Caps in your titles?

[stevemartin60]

Give an example of one of these items being resold by someone pretending to be a regular eBay seller admitting the item was seized at customs and that it is being resold by eBay, Inc.

I'd love to see that.

If that is happening, THAT is new.

[stevemartin60]

Soory, I am not following....

[inhawaii]

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@stevemartin60 wrote:

Reducing the visibility of non-preferred sellers' listings is "restraint of trade."

I'm sure their fancy lawyers have other terms for it, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS.

HINT: It is illegal.

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You seem to be a little confused.

They don't  REDUCE the visibility of those who do not participate.

They INCREASE the visibility of those who do participate.

HINT: If it is illegal, take them to court. They have lots of money.

[blingfling123]

@stevemartin60 

"The GSP agreement does  NOT say..." we will take your falsely rejected items, resell them on eBay under a fake account pretending to be a regular eBay seller, use your photos and descriptions, and make you look like an idiot to our foreign buyers."

It absolutely does, I posted the verbiage above. They reserve the right to alter the requirements around accepted items in the program at any time. They can also liquidate items not deemed eligible to forward out of the country. 

They do not have to disclose to anyone how, or where they liquidate items, or that they are GSP items that were not deemed eligible to be sent overseas.

In addition to that, you are the one asserting that the rejections were false.  I could spend hours linking all the export rules, ITAR regulations, CITES regulations, broker rules that cover all sorts of weird stuff. But if you are not even willing to pay attention to the eBay User Agreements you already accepted, I am not sure it is worth the time.  

The account that is used to sell the items is not a fake one. It is an account just like yours or mine. It does not matter if it is an account run by eBay or Pitney Bowes or Sam Seller off the street.  It does not matter if they are selling GSP seized items or not. 

If you have an issue with your buyers when this happens, send them the verbiage I posted above, because they, like you, agreed to that verbiage when they decided to purchase using GSP.

[1funkydude]

Brace yourself. A middle school level insult referencing your “rockstar” status is imminent.