AI is creating a big mess on eBay.

[owerstokdeel]

AI trucking everyone's  online  activities ,collecting and storing ,analyzing behaviors and making ridiculous decisions to punish peoples  like shadow banning  on multiple platforms affecting visibility of selling items .

Promoting your items can make eBay happier but if you sell cheap used items with small margins  it is not worth it.

[movieman630]

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@mam98031 wrote:

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@movieman630 wrote:

Well today AI kicked off a couple small Army Ordnance battalion and armored battalion pins because they violated the "military items policy" which is for explosive devices, body armor and such.  Not small 1" pins for a specific battalion veteran to wear on their hat or jacket.  

It finds words it doesn't like and makes assumptions.  

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That may not have been AI.  It could have been a real live person.  I haven't had a listing removed for a long time.  Carefully look at the email and see if it tells you.

If the listings were reported by some other member, they do get an email that tells them Ebay acknowledges getting the report and then another email when they decide what to do.  That email will tell them if it was review by AI or a real person.

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There would be no reason for a human to report an item like this.  There's ZERO possibility of something like a pin being a dangerous item.  I mean I suppose you could prick your finger if your not careful but seriously.  We all know AI scans constantly.  Is it more believable that a human being looked at a photo of a decorative colorful pin and thought "I'd better report this!" or that an AI Bot scanned the word "ordnance" or "Armor" and flagged it immediately?

[jonathanbrightlight]

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@movieman630 wrote:

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@mam98031 wrote:

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@movieman630 wrote:

Well today AI kicked off a couple small Army Ordnance battalion and armored battalion pins because they violated the "military items policy" which is for explosive devices, body armor and such.  Not small 1" pins for a specific battalion veteran to wear on their hat or jacket.  

It finds words it doesn't like and makes assumptions.  

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That may not have been AI.  It could have been a real live person.  I haven't had a listing removed for a long time.  Carefully look at the email and see if it tells you.

If the listings were reported by some other member, they do get an email that tells them Ebay acknowledges getting the report and then another email when they decide what to do.  That email will tell them if it was review by AI or a real person.

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There would be no reason for a human to report an item like this.  There's ZERO possibility of something like a pin being a dangerous item.  I mean I suppose you could prick your finger if your not careful but seriously.  We all know AI scans constantly.  Is it more believable that a human being looked at a photo of a decorative colorful pin and thought "I'd better report this!" or that an AI Bot scanned the word "ordnance" or "Armor" and flagged it immediately?

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Bot does not equal AI.  What you're describing happened regularly long before the advent of what we call AI now.

[chapeau-noir]

AI belief is taking on biblical proportions. 

[gurlcat]

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@jonathanbrightlight wrote:

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@movieman630 wrote:

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@mam98031 wrote:

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@movieman630 wrote:

Well today AI kicked off a couple small Army Ordnance battalion and armored battalion pins because they violated the "military items policy" which is for explosive devices, body armor and such.  Not small 1" pins for a specific battalion veteran to wear on their hat or jacket.  

It finds words it doesn't like and makes assumptions.  

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That may not have been AI.  It could have been a real live person.  I haven't had a listing removed for a long time.  Carefully look at the email and see if it tells you.

If the listings were reported by some other member, they do get an email that tells them Ebay acknowledges getting the report and then another email when they decide what to do.  That email will tell them if it was review by AI or a real person.

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There would be no reason for a human to report an item like this.  There's ZERO possibility of something like a pin being a dangerous item.  I mean I suppose you could prick your finger if your not careful but seriously.  We all know AI scans constantly.  Is it more believable that a human being looked at a photo of a decorative colorful pin and thought "I'd better report this!" or that an AI Bot scanned the word "ordnance" or "Armor" and flagged it immediately?

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Bot does not equal AI.  What you're describing happened regularly long before the advent of what we call AI now.

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But wouldn't it be fair to assess both AI and bot flagging as "automated" versus a real person flag which we might call "manual"?   -I think that is the line movieman intended to draw. 

Also, I don't think it's fair to blame someone for mistaking a bot for AI in this scenario, especially when you consider listings that have been up for an extended period of time, but then one day get taken down.  -My guess is that programmers have added new flag words to the list, but from the outside it could just as well look like AI "learning."  -That is the difference between the two, right?  

And when a real person does flag a listing for an alleged prohibited item, who/what assesses the merit of that flag?  -Another human, AI, or a bot?   

[elephantdance43]

And AI is monitoring buyers leaving positive feedback. As you write your feedback, the AI is grading it and encouraging you to write precisely what eBay wants. Too creepy for words. The AI is ruining the integrity of the human-generated feedback, which was once this platform's greatest strength. Now it's "AI-assisted" feedback, which means less honest.

[chapeau-noir]

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@elephantdance43 wrote:

And AI is monitoring buyers leaving positive feedback. As you write your feedback, the AI is grading it and encouraging you to write precisely what eBay wants. Too creepy for words. The AI is ruining the integrity of the human-generated feedback, which was once this platform's greatest strength. Now it's "AI-assisted" feedback, which means less honest.

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I just left feedback today (both as a buyer and seller) and didn't experience this 'AI assisted" feature. 

[mystix]

I have a listing thats been up selling for years... it has a link to credit the STL design on thingiverse. Now their AI has hidden my post for off-site sales offering. It is no such thing. Total fail of their AI to even be trained on what goes into listings.

[shadowraptor]

It's not the suppression of sales that AI is after - it's your personal  data it is grabbing and using.  And, if you try to unplug it, it will defend itself.

[shadowraptor]

Pick me Monty!

[shadowraptor]

I still call them 'bots - they are still lacking the 'intelligence' part.

[shadowraptor]

Skynet, maybe?

[jonathanbrightlight]

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@mystix wrote:

I have a listing thats been up selling for years... it has a link to credit the STL design on thingiverse. Now their AI has hidden my post for off-site sales offering. It is no such thing. Total fail of their AI to even be trained on what goes into listings.

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That’s not AI. External links are not allowed and have not been for a long time.

https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/listing-policies/links-policy?id=4248

[shadowraptor]

AI is already at McDucks - that's why they can recycle a hamburger 10 times - hope you get one near the beginning as the later ones taste like crap.

Darn you AI ...

[shadowraptor]

Please try one of your other languages - this one is too hard to read. And while you're at it, can you say hello to my friend - he's in the blue junket, three boats down.

thanks pal ...

[shadowraptor]

I resemble that remark ....