02-27-2025 08:45 PM
This will be my first time I receive a 1099K form this year since a Draft Listing (not posted yet) will be around $6,500-$7,000 in sales. I know I'll make a profit considering what I paid for all, which I plan to sell as a lot.
I'm also selling as a side business with no business license as I'm not going to list many items so I see no need for a business license. I know nothing of tax law or have any experience like most sellers on eBay and experience is the best teacher they say.
My question is that I KNOW I can't deduct expenses like shipping since I'm not a business, but can I save on taxes instead of paying the whole sale amount?
For example: I bought a Lugia V Alt Art PSA 10 (Silver Tempest/English) for about $450 (I have receipts of everything I'm selling/printed out all the things I bought) and it's now around $650-$750. Instead of paying the WHOLE $650-$750, can I pay the difference between the amount I paid for it and the total of what it sales? ($200 if sold for $650; $300 if sold for $750). or do I pay the whole amount since I'm not a business?
If anyone has answers through their own experience, your help would be greatly appreciated, thanks :)!
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02-27-2025 09:56 PM - edited 02-27-2025 10:08 PM
@redthesilent wrote:This will be my first time I receive a 1099K form this year since a Draft Listing (not posted yet) will be around $6,500-$7,000 in sales. I know I'll make a profit considering what I paid for all, which I plan to sell as a lot.
I'm also selling as a side business with no business license as I'm not going to list many items so I see no need for a business license. I know nothing of tax law or have any experience like most sellers on eBay and experience is the best teacher they say.
My question is that I KNOW I can't deduct expenses like shipping since I'm not a business, but can I save on taxes instead of paying the whole sale amount?
For example: I bought a Lugia V Alt Art PSA 10 (Silver Tempest/English) for about $450 (I have receipts of everything I'm selling/printed out all the things I bought) and it's now around $650-$750. Instead of paying the WHOLE $650-$750, can I pay the difference between the amount I paid for it and the total of what it sales? ($200 if sold for $650; $300 if sold for $750). or do I pay the whole amount since I'm not a business?
If anyone has answers through their own experience, your help would be greatly appreciated, thanks :)!
You say you're not a business, and yet you admit you have a "side business" here. That's a business.
I looked at your feedback. Last year alone you had a few thousand dollars in sales for profit. Guess what? You're operating like a business already and that should be reported for 2024 and maybe in earlier years as well. Being a business is to your tax benefit, and you don't need a business license for Federal taxes or to sell on eBay. So don't overthink this - it's not rocket science.
You also don't need to be a "business" to deduct generous expenses like your cost of the items you already have receipts for, mileage, supplies, shipping costs, etc. It's a simple task of getting the available reports from eBay, totaling up all your other expenses, filing a yearly Federal Schedule C with gross income less those generous expenses, and getting to a lower net profit. That net profit you will add to any other non-eBay income to figure your tax on your return. The simple math is not that difficult, or turn the numbers over to your tax person if you need one.
It's about time you started doing it like the rest of us. You're among the many thousands, if not millions, of sellers who are now waking up to the need to come clean and start reporting what you've possibly been getting away with in years past by not reporting ANY income you're received from ANY sales or "side business" as you define it. We online sellers, who have been properly reporting ANY income for years even without a 1099-K, are quite happy that the playing field is now being leveled. Now it's your turn to get your feet wet and jump in as well.
If you're really as confused as your post appears to show, get in touch with a tax professional and learn the basics of what you need to be doing. It should have been what you were doing all along.
Good Luck!
Cheers, Duffy
02-27-2025 09:17 PM
IRS requires that you report "gross income" as shown on 1099. You will save a ton of money if you file taxes as a "business" and cand deduction (EBAY fees, shipping expense, packing materials, mileage, cost of goods). EBAY has "easy to read" 1-page report that shows YTD totals for (orders, refunds, EBAY fees, shipping expense.
GROSS INCOME
-EBAY fees
-Refunds
-Shipping expense
-Other expenses (cost of goods, packing materials, office supplies, mileage)
NET TAXABLE INCOME
02-27-2025 09:26 PM
Even if I don't have a Business License, can I report my eBay sales as a business or do I have to do so as a hobby?
I know if The IRS considers me a hobby, I can't deduct expenses like eBay Fees and Shipping, but since I'm selling for a profit and my intended purpose was to make a profit, can I file as a business without a business license?, or do I have to have one to file as a business?, and can I consider just selling on eBay a business?
This is so new to me, so your experience is greatly appreciated :).
02-27-2025 09:56 PM - edited 02-27-2025 10:08 PM
@redthesilent wrote:This will be my first time I receive a 1099K form this year since a Draft Listing (not posted yet) will be around $6,500-$7,000 in sales. I know I'll make a profit considering what I paid for all, which I plan to sell as a lot.
I'm also selling as a side business with no business license as I'm not going to list many items so I see no need for a business license. I know nothing of tax law or have any experience like most sellers on eBay and experience is the best teacher they say.
My question is that I KNOW I can't deduct expenses like shipping since I'm not a business, but can I save on taxes instead of paying the whole sale amount?
For example: I bought a Lugia V Alt Art PSA 10 (Silver Tempest/English) for about $450 (I have receipts of everything I'm selling/printed out all the things I bought) and it's now around $650-$750. Instead of paying the WHOLE $650-$750, can I pay the difference between the amount I paid for it and the total of what it sales? ($200 if sold for $650; $300 if sold for $750). or do I pay the whole amount since I'm not a business?
If anyone has answers through their own experience, your help would be greatly appreciated, thanks :)!
You say you're not a business, and yet you admit you have a "side business" here. That's a business.
I looked at your feedback. Last year alone you had a few thousand dollars in sales for profit. Guess what? You're operating like a business already and that should be reported for 2024 and maybe in earlier years as well. Being a business is to your tax benefit, and you don't need a business license for Federal taxes or to sell on eBay. So don't overthink this - it's not rocket science.
You also don't need to be a "business" to deduct generous expenses like your cost of the items you already have receipts for, mileage, supplies, shipping costs, etc. It's a simple task of getting the available reports from eBay, totaling up all your other expenses, filing a yearly Federal Schedule C with gross income less those generous expenses, and getting to a lower net profit. That net profit you will add to any other non-eBay income to figure your tax on your return. The simple math is not that difficult, or turn the numbers over to your tax person if you need one.
It's about time you started doing it like the rest of us. You're among the many thousands, if not millions, of sellers who are now waking up to the need to come clean and start reporting what you've possibly been getting away with in years past by not reporting ANY income you're received from ANY sales or "side business" as you define it. We online sellers, who have been properly reporting ANY income for years even without a 1099-K, are quite happy that the playing field is now being leveled. Now it's your turn to get your feet wet and jump in as well.
If you're really as confused as your post appears to show, get in touch with a tax professional and learn the basics of what you need to be doing. It should have been what you were doing all along.
Good Luck!
Cheers, Duffy
02-27-2025 10:04 PM
I figured I might be overthinking this, but then again, that makes sense considering I know nothing of tax law, which is universally shared as being complicated by many (so maybe not universal, lol.) I tried and tried to Google for answers to my question, but could never find an answer, so here I am.
You answered my question perfectly since I now know I don't need a business license to deduct my expenses (eBay FVF, Shipping Costs, etc) and don't have to pay the TOTAL amount of my sale (the example above, Lugia V, bought $450, sold for $650; I don't have to pay the total $650, but pay for the $200), so that lowered my concerns greatly and with haste, thanks :)!
02-28-2025 12:21 AM
A business license is for your State. And likely you should have one. They are likely free or very low cost because your sales aren't high [no insult intended]. You should check the requirements for your state and do what is appropriate.
If you buy anything to sell it, your in business. Whether you make a profit doesn't determine you have a business. Cuz you say you aren't a business doesn't mean you aren't a business.
Myth: If taxpayers didn't receive a Form 1099-K, they don't have to report income.
Fact: According to federal law, all income is taxable unless it is specifically excluded by tax law. Taxpayers should report any profits from selling goods or services, regardless of if they receive a Form 1099-K.
https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/irs-never-mind-the-myths-know-the-facts-about-receiving-a-form-1099-k-i...
02-28-2025 12:57 AM
@redthesilent wrote:
I'm also selling as a side business with no business license
You are a "business", a sole-proprietor, You report your "business" income on Schedule C and take ALL the deductions you can (cost of goods & all expenses related to your selling activities).
Summarize the Schedule C and transfer the net amount to your 1040.
I business license may or may not be required by your State or Municipal Government, in most cases it's not needed for a home business. The IRS does not care if you have one or not.