01-27-2019 09:02 AM
Here is my 2019 USPS Priority Mail and First Class Mail summary. I created this for my own use and it is an incredibly helpful tool for me. I'm sharing it here with anyone else who wants it.
Break-even amounts are calculated by dividing the Seller's cost by 0.871. It ignores PayPal's $0.30 fee.
Ebay continues to charge buyers less than seller's cost for the flat-rate shipping amounts shown in the top box. I have updated my flat rates to the purple amounts (break-even amounts). You may wish to do the same.
Enjoy!
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01-27-2019 09:50 AM
My table is NOT for TSR (top-rated sellers) or anyone who is eligible for USPS Commerical-Plus rates. My table is for the novice or casual eBay seller who is paying USPS Commercial rates.
Here is a quick and dirty example of why the table is important for a novice seller:
01-27-2019 09:06 AM
Just for clarification where does the .871 number come from?
01-27-2019 09:19 AM
eBay and PayPal fees.
01-27-2019 09:22 AM
01-27-2019 09:23 AM
OIC but the Ebay fee is a Final Value Fee and should probably be expensed against the item not the shipping and handling.
If Ebay didn't break it out to allow multiple shipping options this would never have been considered a shipping fee by sellers.
01-27-2019 09:28 AM
@the*dog*ate*my*tablecloth wrote:Just for clarification where does the .871 number come from?
I believe that the OP's formula is correct in that:
Ebay charges a 10% fee of the S&H that the buyer pays.
Paypal charges a 2.9% fee on the S&H that the buyer pays ( ignoring the 30 cent transaction charge ).
10% + 2.9% = 12.9%
100% = The seller's actual postage cost
100% - 12.9% = 87.1%
So for a seller break even on a $5.00 actual postage cost, he has to divide his actual cost by 87.1%.
$5.00 divided by .871 = $5.74
The seller has to charge $5.74 in order to net his $5.00 actual cost.
Mathematically proved as follows:
$5.74 - .57 Ebay Fee - .17 Paypal Fee = $5.00 Net S&H that seller gets after fees.
01-27-2019 09:28 AM
This is a break even analysis.
01-27-2019 09:30 AM
01-27-2019 09:37 AM
Not trying to be annoying, just have an different perspective.
It makes sense to me to consider break even between the different shipping services. I printed the sheet with thanks!
It just doesn't make sense to me using FVF as part of break even on shipping. If you're using the shipping charged to the buyer, what happens when you're a "free" shipping seller?
I understand why some people put it there. I personally don't see it as part of shipping and wouldn't include it in a break even for shipping. Now if you were paying a fee to print labels, that would be different.
01-27-2019 09:50 AM
My table is NOT for TSR (top-rated sellers) or anyone who is eligible for USPS Commerical-Plus rates. My table is for the novice or casual eBay seller who is paying USPS Commercial rates.
Here is a quick and dirty example of why the table is important for a novice seller:
01-27-2019 09:52 AM
I just wanted to add @mangorunner I am absolutely not questioning your choice to include the FVF in your calculation. You are entitled to break down your numbers in a way that makes sense to your business. I just wanted to understand your methods and calculations for anyone who may want to use your sheet.
01-27-2019 09:54 AM
01-27-2019 10:13 PM
01-28-2019 05:47 AM
@colorful*things wrote:
Sellers not receiving TRS discounts should use PirateShip. Anyone can get the cheapest rates with them, no TRS needed....
Have you done a price comparison since the USPS rates went up yesterday?
01-28-2019 08:07 AM - edited 01-28-2019 08:08 AM