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Trouble with eBays Listing Editor causing HTML and CSS issues

I have been battling this issue for quite awhile.  I recently decided to try using Blue Griffon HTML editor to clean the HTML code that eBays listing tool has flubbed up over time and make sure it was as close to correct according to HTML standards as i can with my knowledge.  I have contacted eBay and they are looking into it, but like many other people with similar problems, i really do not expect them to fix it or come up with a fix.

 

I am trying to copy the HTML from my 3rd party editor into the HTML tab of the listing and then without looking at the standard preview, submit the changes to preserve the proper HTML to make it look as it should.  It should work down to 320px width decently.

 

The other day, i created a "test" listing so i could try things without messing up my actual listings.  I chose one of my listings, then "sell similar" and then copy/pasted the html into the html box, listed it and somehow it worked, although there were a few things i needed to change to work below 480px width properly.  So today i made those changes, clicked on "revise listing" and am pretty sure i am using the same code except with minor internal changes for max-width on the video/images and for some reason it is not working now.  It is stripping my CSS and causing issues.

 

If you compare the code below just opened in a browser to the ebay listing #223327504714 you should be able to see what i am talking about.

 

Please help if anyone has any ideas!

 

I will have to break the HTML into a couple posts to stay within allowed 20,000 character posts.

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<div style="text-align: center; padding-left: 20px;"> <img src="https://www.wolfesmetalfabrication.com/images/Wolfes_Metal_Fabrication_No_Back.gif" alt="Wolfes Metal Fabrication" style="width:800px; height:auto;"> </div>
<h1 style="margin-top: -15px;">"Easy Shrink"™ Shrinking Discs</h1>
<h2 style="color: red; text-align: center;">This is our Combined Listing!</h2>
<h2 style="color: red; text-align: center;">It includes all our 3", 4 1/2" (Flat and Curved) &amp; 9" Shrinking Disc Kit Options all in one place!</h2>
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<p style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"> Select the desired MPN (manufacturer part number) from the drop down list to update the price and picture of contents included.<br>
Read the description for an entire list of what is included in the different packages.</p>
<p style="color:red; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"> Everything in all the pictures is NOT included in every kit!</p>
<p style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"> When selecting a MPN, the main picture will update to show you what is included.<br>
You are still able to view and click on the other pictures, but only what is shown in the initial updated picture is included!</p>
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<div style="color:red; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;">Because this listing has a lot of info, it is divided into the following sections to help you find the info you need. </div>
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<div style="padding-left: 5%; padding-right: 5%; text-align: center;"> <span

style="display: inline-block; text-align: left;"> <b>1. Purchasing &amp; Listing Info -&nbsp;</b>(this section and above)<b>MUST READ!</b><br>
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<b>2. Quick Overview</b><br>
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<b>3. "Explanation of Contents" -&nbsp;</b>(Includes Fitment Info and RPM Requirements) <b>MUST READ!</b><br>
Please double check to make sure you are getting what you want and need <br>
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<b>4. Video Demonstrations</b><br>
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<b>5. "Frequently Asked Questions" -&nbsp;</b>Please review <b>BEFORE</b> contacting us!<br>
Your question has likely been asked before, like <b>"Which size should i order?"</b><br>
If something is still unclear, please contact us for clarification, <b>BEFORE</b> ordering!<br>
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<b>6. Customer Feedback -&nbsp;</b>Comments from our Customers</span></div>
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<h2 style="text-align: center;">2. Quick Overview</h2>
<h3 style="text-align: center;">A Few Satisfied Customer's Comments</h3>
<p style="font-weight: bold; line-height: 200%; text-align: center;"> "The shrinking disc works fantastic, even for an amateur!!"<br>
"Been doing paint and body 25 years. A definite must have for fabricators!!!"<br>
"Amazing, I have been using a torch for 35 years, this is the way to go"<br>
"Thanks 4 the AWESOME tool! It's the most-used tool in our shop! You're the best!"</p>
<div style="padding-left: 5%; padding-right: 5%; text-align: center;"> <span

style="display: inline-block; text-align: left;">
<ul>
<li>Our "Easy Shrink"™ discs are made using a Special High Grade Stainless Alloy &amp; Manufacturing Process, that creates a long lasting, low galling, crack resistant, safer and higher performance disc compared to older designs.</li>
<li>Our Shrinking Disc Kits include everything you need in convenient trouble free packages!</li>
<li>Works on steel, stainless, aluminum, brass</li>
<li>Creates Heat through Friction to allow shrinking of the sheetmetal</li>
<li>Works with compressed air or water cooling (spray bottle or rag)</li>
<li>Is good for shrinking, smoothing, blending and relieving surface tension created from damage</li>
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<div style="font-weight: bold; text-align: center;"> <u>We are the inventor of the 1st and Original 3" and 4 1/2" shrinking discs, and were the <span

style="color: red">FIRST</span> to offer it!</u></div>
<h3 style="text-align: center;">Better than Others <span style="color: red"><u><em>Guaranteed!</em></u></span></h3>
<div style="font-weight: bold; line-height: 200%; text-align: center;"><span

style="font-style: italic;">If your not satisfied and/or you find the competitors better, send it back and I will give you a refund!&nbsp; No one else offers this!</span>
<hr style="width: 95%;"> <span style="font-style: italic; color: red;">We highly recommend that you compare our listings, feedback &amp; sales history with others, before purchasing similar products from other sellers.</span><br>
Our Great Customer Service, Return Policy, Experience and Improvements to our tools, are things to consider when thinking about purchasing tools such as these.<br>
Wolfes Metal Fabrication is the inventor/innovator of the "Easy Shrink"™ Shrinking Discs, and a real Insured and registered LLC Business, what about them?</div>
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<h2>3. Explanation of Options &amp; Contents</h2>
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<li><b>Adjustable Pin Wrench</b>&nbsp;- Used to help tighten and loosen the nuts of the 4 1/2" and 9" discs. (this is an Optional Item!)</li>
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<li><b>SD3&nbsp;</b>- 3" Replacement Disc for the SD3Kit, for right angle die grinders or similar, has a 3/8" hole &amp; is a direct replacement for the disc in our SD3Kit (Mandrel Not Included)</li>
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<li><span style="color: red"><b>SD3Kit&nbsp;</b></span>- Fits standard right angle die grinders that accept 1/4" shank mandrels.&nbsp; Discs have 3/8" holes.&nbsp; Contents - SD3 Disc, 1/4" Shank x 3/8" Mandrel &amp; Instruction Manual</li>
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<li><b>SD458&nbsp;</b>- 4 1/2" Disc, Least Common Option, ONLY for some older 4" grinders that require a 5/8" hole (Disc Only), Makita Part #743009-6 pad, #224501-6 Nut may work if pad is needed</li>
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<li><b>SD478&nbsp;</b>- 4 1/2" Replacement Disc for the SD4Kit, Fits 4 1/2" grinders, has a 7/8" hole &amp; is a direct replacement for the disc in our SD4kit. (backing pad required)</li>
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<li><span style="color: red"><b>SD4Kit&nbsp;</b></span>- Fits standard 4 1/2" grinders that have 5/8" - 11 spindle thread &amp; use discs with 7/8" holes.&nbsp; Contents - SD478 Disc, Backing Pad, Nut, Spacer &amp; Instruction Manual (Need a different thread size? We can swap it out)</li>
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<li><b>SD478C&nbsp;</b>- 4 1/2" Replacement Disc for the SD4CKit that has a Curved face for concave or reverse curved panels. Fits 4 1/2" grinders, has a 7/8" hole &amp; is a direct replacement for the disc in our SD4CKit. (backing pad required &amp; is different than the SD4Kit pad)</li>
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<li><span style="color: red"><b>SD4CKit&nbsp;</b></span>- Has a Curved face for concave or reverse curved panels.&nbsp; Fits standard 4 1/2" grinders that have 5/8" - 11 spindle thread &amp; use discs with 7/8" holes.&nbsp; Contents - SD478C Disc, Backing Pad, Nut, Spacer &amp; Instruction Manual (Need a different thread size? We can swap it out)</li>
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<li><b>SD49CP Combo Pack</b>- 4 1/2" and 9" Replacement Discs for the SD4Kit and SD9Kit</li>
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<li><b>SD9&nbsp;</b>- 9" Disc, Fits Standard 7" or 9" sander/grinder/polishers &amp; is a direct replacement for the 9" disc in our SD9kit. (backing pad recommended)</li>
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<li><span style="color: red"><b>SD9Kit&nbsp;</b></span>- Fits standard 7" or 9" sander/grinder/polishers with a 5/8" - 11 threaded spindle. Contents - SD9 Disc, Backing Pad, Nut, Spacer &amp; Instruction Manual</li>
</ul>
<div><span style="font-size: 18pt; font-weight: bold;">Discounted Package Deals</span><br>
<b>Our Popular "Easy Shrink" Shrinking Disc Kits put together in money saving discounted packages!</b></div>
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<ul>
<li><b>DLX49 Basic</b>&nbsp;- Includes the SD4Kit &amp; SD9Kit&nbsp;<b>(Used to be called our Deluxe or DLXKit)<br>
<span style="color: red">Basic Starter Kit that will let you tackle many common jobs</span></b></li>
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<li><b>DLX349 Advanced</b>&nbsp;- Includes the SD3Kit, SD4Kit &amp; SD9Kit <br>
<span style="color: red"><b>Advanced Kit that adds the ability to tackle tight area &amp; hood/trunklid sandblasting warpage repairs between &amp; slightly under the backside bracing (shrink the blasted and stretched top skin from the backside)</b></span></li>
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<li><b>DLX3494C Expert</b>&nbsp;- Includes the SD3Kit, SD4Kit, SD9Kit &amp; the Curved SD4CKit <br>
<span style="color: red"><b>One step above our Advanced Kit that adds the ability to repair concave or reverse curved areas.&nbsp; Helps you on your way to becoming an Expert Metalman!</b></span></li>
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<li><b>DLX3494C +2 Metal Master</b>&nbsp;- Includes the SD3Kit, SD4Kit, SD9Kit &amp; the Curved SD4CKit as well as 2 additional discs for each kit<br>
<span style="color: red"><b>Our largest, most complete kit with the greatest discount &amp; best value, used by true Metal Masters! Great for multiple material types, spares or large shops!</b></span></li>
</ul>
<p>A Detailed Instruction Manual is Included with all orders.&nbsp; It includes information on how the heat shrinking process works, how to use the disc &amp; important information about achieving a proper mounting.&nbsp; It is highly recommended to read the manual before using the disc for safety, knowledge, and to answer frequently asked questions.</p>
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<div> We try to make sure we are offering everything our customers want and need, in convenient, trouble free packages. If there is something that would improve our kits for you, or an option you would like to see added, please let us know via our Contact US Page!&nbsp; Your requests do matter and ARE listened to!&nbsp; We have added from request, the large backing pads, spacers (on occasion they were needed), alternate thread sizes for the 4 1/2" discs, the adjustable pin wrench, 3" discs and the Curved 4 1/2" discs.</div>
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<h2 style="text-align: center;">4. Video Demonstrations</h2>
<h3 style="text-align: center; color: red;">Our Original Video Demonstration!</h3>
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src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/X8cruauERmI/0.jpg"></a>
<p class="yt_hd" style="max-width: 480px;">Wolfes Metal Fabrication Shrinking Disc demonstration - YouTube</p>
<p class="yt_ft" style="max-width: 480px;">Video will open in a new window<br>
Using the eBay App? Paste link into a browser window:</p>
<input class="yt_inp" value="https://www.youtube.com/embed/X8cruauERmI?rel=0"

style="max-width: 480px;" type="text"></div>
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<div style="text-align: center;"> <img src="https://www.wolfesmetalfabrication.com/sitebuilder/images/657-456x339.jpg"

alt="" height="379" width="480"> <img src="https://www.wolfesmetalfabrication.com/sitebuilder/images/672-456x339.jpg"

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<div>In the above pictures and our original video, I demonstrate removing two large bulges in a domed panel, which simulate dents that have have been popped back out, but remain overstretched. Once I got the lumps shrunk back down (I did NOT use a hammer and dolly, only the shrinking disc for demonstration purposes), I ran a sander over the panel to show exactly how smooth of a finish can be achieved. You can not tell the damage used to be there, and if painting, it would be ready for primer, no filler needed. In normal conditions, you would straighten out the metal like usual with a hammer and dolly first, to speed up the process, and then use the shrinking disc to achieve smooth final finish. More details and instructions can be found in the included instruction manual.</div>
<h3 style="text-align: center;">New High Definition Repair Video on a 1941 Lincoln!</h3>
<div style="text-align: center;"> <img src="https://www.wolfesmetalfabrication.com/sitebuilder/images/Repair_Poster_Side_1-480x379.jpg"

alt="" height="379" width="480"> <img src="https://wolfesmetalfabrication.com/images/repair_poster_side_2_ebay.jpg"

alt="" height="379" width="480"> </div>
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<div class="ytvideo"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rt07pLebQwQ?rel=0"> <img

src="https://img.youtube.com/vi/rt07pLebQwQ/0.jpg"></a>
<p class="yt_hd" style="max-width: 480px;">Dent Repair, Metal Bumping &amp; Shrinking with a Wolfes Metal Fabrication "Easy Shrink"™ Shrinking Disc - YouTube</p>
<p class="yt_ft" style="max-width: 480px;">Video will open in a new window<br>
Using the eBay App? Paste link into a browser window:</p>
<input class="yt_inp" value="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rt07pLebQwQ?rel=0"

style="max-width: 480px;" type="text"></div>
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<h2>5. Frequently Asked Questions -&nbsp;<span style="font-size: 18pt;">(Please review <b>BEFORE </b>contacting us!)</span></h2>
<h3> What are Shrinking Discs?</h3>
<p>When using a Shrinking Disc, you are able to shrink overstretched areas and repair damaged sheet metal panels to a like new condition, making for a better quality, longer lasting finish with little or no body filler at all! The secret to them, is they create the heat that is needed to shrink through friction. They produce better results and are much more controllable than shrinking with a torch or a solid tipped stud gun. When using a torch, you are directly controlling how much heat is being inserted, and were it is going. This is easily and many times overdone, resulting in warping and further damaging the panel. With the shrinking disc and its large surface area, it eliminates some of the guess work, especially when smoothing a lumpy panel by only touching the higher overstretched areas! The heat is also more concentrated on the higher peaks of the damage and tapers off to the lower areas, which results in a much greater accuracy of heat placement, in turn ending with a much smoother nicely blended panel.</p>
<p>Once you have started using the shrinking disc and get a little practice under your belt, it will make you feel more confident in your metalworking skills when you can finish a panel with no body filler at all! The more you use it, and the better you get, the less filler you have to spread and sand! It saves lots of time on sanding, keeps the shop cleaner from having less putty dust, and makes for a better quality, longer lasting finish with little or no body filler at all!</p>
<h3>How is it used?</h3>
<p>In normal conditions, you would roughly straighten the panel, tap the dents and low areas up with a hammer and dolly and then make a couple of passes with the shrinking disc, heating and cooling. Look over the panel to determine were more work is needed, and using a hammer and dolly, rearrange or tap up any remaining low spots followed by a few more passes with the disc. After completing several loops of this process, your panel will be smooth, and back to normal surface tension.</p>
<p>When using the shrinking disc after welding in a patch panel to arrive at an almost invisible seam, you should start by carefully grinding the bulk of the weld. While doing this, you want to minimizing excessive heat buildup and prevent thinning of the panel itself. Then the HAZ (Heat Affected Zone, the area that was discolored while welding) needs to be stretched by using a hammer and dolly (with slightly more contour than your panel), striking the hammer "On Dolly". This is required, because the welding process heat causes shrinking just like the shrinking disc does, although it happens in an unwanted and uncontrolled manner. After stretching the HAZ, it will be closer to the original profile, but still lumpy, uneven and possibly over stretched from the various hammer blows. Now is when the shrinking disc works its magic. By using the shrinking disc over this area, and blending around the edges if needed, it will only touch the higher overstretched areas as mentioned before, and shrink them down so the entire weld area is smooth, and has the same surface level. More details on using the discs included in the Instruction Manual.</p>
<h3>How does Heat Shrinking work?</h3>
<p>Shrinking occurs after heating (causing expansion) and cooling metal (resulting in contraction). This happens because while a panel or sheet of metal is being heated, the heated area is trying to expand. The surrounding cold metal is containing the majority of the expansion and holding it in, preventing the expansion from happening. When cooling the panel, the heated metal contracts (which the surrounding metal cannot prevent, in turn shrinking the heated area. Important aspects of this method are heating and cooling fairly quickly. Slow heating is usually more of a problem than slow cooling, as it will let the heat disperse into the entire panel before any expansion containment has taken place, reducing the shrinking discs effectiveness greatly. If heating happens quick enough, some shrinking can occur with only room temperature cooling, but is greatly accelerated and multiplied by cooling with either compressed air or water (squirt bottle or rag), but water generally tends to provide quicker cooling.</p>
<p>These shrinking discs work well on steel, stainless, aluminum, brass and may on some other metals. (it is recommended to use separate discs to prevent cross contamination) Also it only touches the higher overstretched spots that need to be shrunk. So you are able to shrink an area on a panel without worrying about making the problem even worse like you can with a torch. The shrinking disc also works excellent on removing those "oil can" dents that were caused by overworking and stretching the metal too much! </p>
<h3>Which size disc should I get 3", 4 1/2" or 9"?</h3>
<p>The small 4 1/2" disc has a low initial investment (almost everyone has a 4 1/2" grinder), and works great on small parts (for example, stainless trim, grille shells, motorcycle tanks, etc), light damage, tight spaces, or after primer and block sanding, it works great for catching any high spots that were overlooked, instead of beating them in and covering them with filler, without disturbing much of the surrounding primer (as it is more difficult with the large disc).</p>
<p>The large 9" disc excels when working large, low to medium contour panels such as, hoods, roof, door, trunk or heavily damaged panels, because of its greater working surface area. Compare it to block sanding, were on a large panel, a longer sanding block makes it straighter and works more area at one time, but the small ones still work and are needed for some situations as well.</p>
<p>Our newest addition to the shrinking disc line is the 3" disc. The SD3 Disc and Kit were designed to compliment the larger shrinking discs for extreme fine tuning and to get into hard to reach areas.p If there is room for a larger disc, using the larger disc is recommended, as you will have much better and faster results.p After personally using the larger shrinking discs for many years and talking to customers, I found that a smaller shrinking disc would be a great compliment to the shrinking tool arsenal.p The SD3 disc would not be a good option to try to repair an entire 1/4 panel or heavily damaged area, it would take too long and/or just not work very well. However, it is very handy, especially when repairing sandblasting damage from the outer skin being stretched when it is blasted from the backside between the bracing. This creates a Hard Edge of stretching from the blasting process because of the bracing blocking some of the panel. The small lipless discs allow you to get into the open areas between the bracing and even slightly under to finish blending the repair as far as the blasting process was able to stretch the sheetmetal.</p>
<h3>Do I need spare discs?</h3>
<p>If purchasing our Deluxe Kit or larger kit, you are allowed to purchase up to 2 of each size of discs for spares at 1/2 price at the time of purchase. The discs themselves will last a long time, long enough that we don't have an actual lifespan to give you, and since usage varies greatly for different people. The only reasons you may choose to purchase spares are, in case you drop and bend or otherwise damage a disc, loan it to a buddy and he fails to return it before you need it (heard this more than once!), or the primary reason being, if you are planning on using them on multiple different materials such as mild steel, aluminum and stainless steel. You can use the same disc, however you want to be sure you clean it very well to prevent the possibility of embedding tiny steel particles that can rust or cause corrosion into your stainless or aluminum panel. To prevent that from even being a possibility, it is recommended to use different discs on different materials. Our Deluxe 349W+2 Kit includes all 3 sizes of kits, the wrench and 2 spares of each size for a Complete Discounted Kit.</p>
<h3>Why choose our "Easy Shrink"™ Shrinking Discs over others?</h3>
<p>Our "Easy Shrink"™ discs are made using a Special High Grade Stainless Alloy &amp; Manufacturing Process, that creates a long lasting, low galling, crack resistant, safer and higher performance disc compared to older designs. Brian Wolfe (Owner) is the Inventor of the smaller stainless shrinking discs, the correct 4 1/2" size in particular (as well as the new 3" disc), but was then followed by others. The larger discs have been around for ages made by multiple different manufacturers in several different styles, and over the years of using and providing shrinking discs, we have made changes and improvements to the material and manufacturing process that we use, to provide you with an improved quality, safer and better performing disc, as well as introducing a smaller size disc to compliment the large one and for special situations. Many people prefer our smooth shrinking discs over the wavy discs for several reasons. It is safer with the flanged edge than the "saw blade" like edge the wavy discs have. The ridges are not necessary, they create unneeded vibration and noise as the shrinking happens because of the heat caused by friction. The ridges can actually lead to premature failure and cracking due to wearing thin only on the higher raised areas of the disc. We have also worked hard to improve the quality control checks following manufacturing before delivery. I, Brian Wolfe, will personally provide great friendly customer service to deal with problems or answer questions with quick responses with an importance to customer satisfaction. We have also put a lot of time, effort and testing into making reasonably priced quality "Kits" that generally include everything that you need to get you started easily and conveniently with the least amount of hassle.</p>
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<h3>Misc FAQ's</h3>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: What speed of grinder do I need for your shrinking discs?</b><br>
A: For the 9" discs 3000-6000 rpm work great. I personally use an old heavy 6000 rpm grinder. For the 4 1/2" discs, most small grinders run at 10,000-13,000 rpm. They will work great. On the new 3" discs, a standard right angle air grinder at 20,000-22,000 rpm works well. (higher power air grinders work best as alot of friction is taking place and can slow the grinder and shrinking action if it is not powerful enough) This Info is included in the "Explanation of Contents" </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: Do your shrinking discs come with a backing pad?</b><br>
A: If you are buying a <b>"KIT"</b> &amp; it says it does in the <b>"Explanation of Contents"</b>, then yes it does. Our Shrinking Discs <b>REQUIRE</b> a backing pad for proper mounted &amp; usage. </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: What type of backing pad can I use for your shrinking discs?</b><br>
A: Most large grinders come with a rubber or plastic pad that is intended for flexible sanding discs, and have a nut that is tapered so it will sit flush with the surface when tightened, these may be used, but some pads may not follow the contour of the discs well and will cause problems when mounting. Also watch out for backing pads that include a Cast nut! (I have seen them break!) Our Kits use machined nuts (very important for safety!) This is why we <b>HIGHLY RECOMMEND</b> purchasing one of our Kits! They include everything you need to ensure a trouble free experience! </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: How can I learn more about metalworking and using these tools?</b><br>
A: A great free place to learn are the Metalmeet and Allmetalshaping forums, as well as a few others. Search the forums and ask questions, there are many nice people there sharing about the art of metalworking. There are also DVDs offered by various individuals focusing on different subjects of metalworking that can be purchased online. </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: I love your tool, and would like to tell you about it.</b><br>
A: Great! Feel free to write a response about our tools and include pictures and/or your business/website information if you would like. If you allow permission, I will gladly post your story and link on our website for others to see how well it worked for you. We have many short one line thanks and amazement quotes, and always welcome more, although if you feel like writing more, we would love to put you on our testimonials page with or without pictures. </p>
<h3>eBay Related FAQ's</h3>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: Can you please leave feedback for me?</b><br>
A: Yes of course, but we are very busy, so feedback is left in bulk for everyone a couple of times a month. </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: When will you ship, or when will i receive my item?</b><br>
A: Orders are shipped same or next day Monday through Friday. US orders usually take 2-3 days but allow 6 for delays. International orders normally take 6-10 days, but can take a little longer (up to a month in rare cases) due to customs delays that are out of our hands. If you are still waiting, just keep an eye on the tracking info for updates. </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: How much is shipping?</b><br>
A: Click on the shipping tab and select your country from the drop down list and click the get rates button. It will show you the proper shipping price. Sometimes we offer FREE Shipping on a few of our listings. Shipping prices are almost always calculated automatically so there is rarely a need to contact us for a quote. </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: Will you combine shipping if I buy more than one item?</b><br>
A: Yes, the listing or the shipping info will explain the discount and it is usually added automatically. </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: I paid and have not received my item, or I am unhappy because.....</b><br>
A: Please contact us about any problems or questions you have, <b>BEFORE</b> leaving Negative feedback. We strive to keep our customers happy and our feedback at the top! </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: Can I bid on/buy an item and then change my mind?</b><br>
A: Your bid is a contract, and if you win; you need to pay for your purchase. Be sure you want the item <b>BEFORE</b> bidding/buying. If you are unsure, please do not bid. eBay is very strict on this, and a NPB (Non Paying Bidder) report is filed with them if this happens. It is very inconvenient for us and we still get charged for the sale. </p>
<p id="p12"><b>Q: I want to buy an item, but I might not be able to make the payment within 48 hours. Is this ok?</b><br>
A: We like to get items out right away after the sale, but we will understand if you need a little more time to complete the payment. All we ask in either scenario is to send an email saying when you will make the payment, or that payment is on its way. </p>
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So the last 3 posts of code if you copy and paste them together without the <html></html> tags (thought i had to use them) and replace the 😛 with ": p" you should have the full code as long as eBays forum didn't mess anything else up, otherwise, tell me a better way to post or attach the code (wouldn't let me attach a .html file) and i will do it.

 

Thanks in advance, this has been a huge headache.

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For future reference, use codeboxes to post code ( the  </> icon on the forum editor tool menu)  or upload to webspace somewhere and post a link to it.

 

 

Ugh. Making nice webpages isn't my forte - my thing is more destroying those nice webpages by undoing the page author's hard work to bend the page to look like I want it to with removals, insertions, and re-positioning. Mostly. grin

 

One thing I noted that didn't seem to affect the page is that you have multiple P elements near the end with the same ID which is not permissible I thought. (should use a class attribute instead?)

 

 

Page fits ok centered in fullscreen 1020x1080 mode in Firefox 31 on a 24" monitor.

 

The page is cut off on the right on an HTC Desire phone 480x800 emulation in an Opera Mobile emulator - it isn't flowing, but the photos scale and fit.

ebay_listing_opera_mobile_HTC_desire_480x800.gif

 

Text blocks are cut off on the right on my phone in Opera Mini browser on a 1280x720 display, but although the photos scale down, they aren't flowing and are cut off

ebay_listing_opera_mini_Lumia640XL_720x1280.gif

 

 

The CSS isn't getting stripped off - it looks like it's all there at least in the desktop view. (no tools in mobile emulator to check page source and tools on my phone no longer work either).

 

I just don't know how internal style sheet CSS plays out in eBay descriptions (only played with it once or twice years ago and use only minimal inline myself), and really don't know about how mobile and that CSS play together.

 

 

Need to call in @shipscript   she will see the problem in under 30 seconds I suspect.

 

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Here is a link to the code uploaded to my websites server and how it is supposed to work.

 

https://wolfesmetalfabrication.com/ebay223327504714propercodetest.html

 

I think you will be able to see that the CSS is stripped or atleast some, because the top title under my Wolfesmetalfabrication logo image is centered in CSS and the HR are given color and style in the CSS.

 

Everything should look and work proper in this link.  (right click and click show page source for code)

 

The problem is it does not look like that on eBay, as you have noticed!

 

Brian

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My above link shows up correctly on my desktop chrome browser and  Internet Explorer both fullsize and with the width scrunched down, as well as showing correctly on my Samsung Galaxy S7 with 414 x 732 PX viewport size.

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I looked at the link above - it displays centered in Firefox 31 and looks good. Also worked correctly in the emulated HTC Desire phone.

As I said, this is not my forte - shipscript is the expert on CSS, and hopefully she will pop in soon.

Couple of observations:
You have that internal stylesheet embedded in the body of the documents both on your site and in the eBay desc - that is not allowed under HTML 4 and I believe may cause some browser to ignore the styles. Supposed to be in the head element, but that doesn't work on eBay. However, apparently it's usual practice to do it the way you are so never mind I guess.

Your description displays in a narrow iframe on eBay, which is further narrowed by your store left nav category panel. I don't know if that has anything to do with what is happening, but certain things may not work correctly when you have elements buried in layers of tables inside an iframe.

I dug into the desktop DOM for that iframe and the style element is there, but the styles are not applying at all from what I can see. I think it's because the style is buried in an iframe, but again, this stuff isn't my specialty.

Here are some threads to chew on if you haven't seen them already:
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Selling/HTML-and-CSS-in-Article-Description/td-p/26470615
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Tools-Apps/Incorporate-CSS-into-HTML-listing/qaq-p/28228322
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Tools-Apps/Incorporate-CSS-into-HTML-listing-Part-2/qaq-p/28235721
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Tools-Apps/Incorporate-CSS-into-HTML-listing-Part-3/td-p/28239133
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Tools-Apps/Description-HTML-CSS-Classes-being-Stripped-Out-so-CSS-Not/...
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Archive-Selling/Learning-CSS/td-p/20367540


I tagged shipscript, and unless she is busy, under the weather, or on walkabout should be along at some point soon.
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About the CSS, yes you are correct, using CSS on ebay listings is slightly different than the norm, so i believe it has to be like that to work.

 

As far as on eBay in the iframe with the store nav panel, i have no control over that, ebay puts my description inside of their page, and i am fine with that, i think it still works fine and i dont mind that part of it, its the massive changes, that is the problem.

 

I have searched and searched on this topic, but i will review the links you posted hopefully later today after shipping packages when i have some time.

 

I am looking forward to shipscript showing up to share her expertise.

 

Brian

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@wolfesmetalfabrication

I am on the run today, and will look at this tonight.

eBay puts your code inside a table, and that can change the appearance of some coding. Try developing your code while it is inside a table and make adjustments accordingly.  It is easy for me to look at a listing. If you have a test listing, let me know the item number.

 

 

ShipScript has been an eBay Community volunteer since 2003, specializing in HTML, CSS, Scripts, Photos, Active Content, Technical Solutions, and online Seller Tools.
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@shipscript

 

The ebay test listing is 223327504714 (shows incorrectly)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223327504714

 

And the link to the code uploaded to my web server (shows correctly, except it would be narrower inside ebays pages, which is ok).

https://wolfesmetalfabrication.com/ebay223327504714propercodetest.html

 

Thanks!  I will be patiently awaiting your input!

 

Brian

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A quick run through the code shows these differences between your source and eBay. These codes in your original will not be the same on eBay

 

<!DOCTYPE html>
<html>
  <head>
    <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
    <title>eBay SD Combined Listing</title>
  </head>
  <body>

 

•• eBay will use UTF-8 encoding, not windows-1252 (unless you are uploading to File Exchange).  If you have any special characters in your text, the selected encode can affect them. Although it seemed to work, the trademark ™ symbol could be a problem in some conversions, so I recommend using the HTML entity code to display the symbol, and another common symbol that should be coded is the copyright © symbol:

 

&trade;
&copy;

 

•• eBay does not declare a doctype (which must be the first line on a page, a position you will never be able to access) , although modern browsers will probably assume html5 support when none is declared. Older browsers will just render things a little differently in quirks mode.

 

•• I see that you included a hard element to preserve styles <br style="display:none">. This is good in general for eBay, although this past year, my Firefox and eBay have gotten along ok without it. It's still better to be safe and use it ahead of styles and elements that are normally located in the head element.

 

•• eBay places your description within a table, which can affect some CSS styles. So temporarily wrap a table around your code during testing to make sure a table will not modify rendering.

 

•• So far, none of the above is an issue. The biggest problem is that your browser, in combination with eBay's editor, is adding hard characters to your source code. The spaces used in formatting the code are being converted to hard spaces within the rich-text-editor that eBay calls HTML view. Do not copy the HTML from one rich text editor to another. Instead, copy from a true plain text window like Notepad before pasting into eBay. Alternatively, left align all of your code to remove the leading spaces and remove all extra spaces between code attributes.  See screenshots of Firefox viewing source code on your website (clean) and on eBay (cluttered with hard spaces).  I believe there are probably hard spaces within some of your styles.

 

After you clean up the spaces, we can see if that resolves everything  or if there are other issues.

 

ShipScript has been an eBay Community volunteer since 2003, specializing in HTML, CSS, Scripts, Photos, Active Content, Technical Solutions, and online Seller Tools.
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I am aware of the first issue, i only copy the body element, not the header and info you posted.  I am aware of that.  I have read many forum posts on this issue, but still no solid answer on how to realistically fix it without having to manually edit out all the white spaces. (which is a non-standard practice in HTML)  I have many more listings i have to edit by the way, and if i remove all the white spaces, then it will be very difficult for me to edit them in the future OR i would have to once again remove all the white spaces after editing in the HTML editor, so for a simple edit, you are talking probably half a day for one listing, this is ridiculous!  Ebay NEEDS to fix this!

 

As far as the hard spaces, YES, this is a problem that i cannot seem to solve, as you can tell long listings like this would take a long time to manually edit after making changes in a standard HTML editor that has all of these.

 

Is there a editor that you suggest or a 3rd party application that removes these white spaces properly?  I have tried so many things without success.

 

I have tried using notepad, and i have tried copying from Blue Griffon, the HTML editor.  One time it seemed to work fine even without removing all the white spaces, im wondering if it was when i created the "sell similar" NEW listing, or i just got lucky? but when i am trying to revise it, even by ONLY viewing the HTML code and pasting it there without viewing the standard mode, it is still adding all the hard spaces.

 

WHY does ebay have to do that?  It is a huge headache for alot of people and not standard practice?????

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