How to opt out of the new '2019 Early Seller Update New fixed price listings will be Good ‘Til Cance

[daddydarththeone]

How to opt out of the new '2019 Early Seller Update New fixed price listings will be Good ‘Til Cancelled duration'?

I have 12 different 'categories' of items(Toys, Books, Entertainment items, etc...), which I list one category per month.

With this new setup, I have to sell out of one category before I can list a different category?

Will I have to cancel all my listings a few hours before they end, so that they won't automatically renew?

Is there a way to opt out of this automatic renewal of listings?

Thanks!

[sarandipitybay]

Sounds like on ebay.au active listings were converted to GTC before ending. (Or maybe they had auto-relist set. )
"Ebay changed our 30 day listings to GTC from 19 February 2019 - but they didn't wait for the 30 day listings to end...just changed them to GTC at the end of the cycle!! Imagine the surprise when a seller's 30 days listings rolled-over, change to GTC then got hit with the listing fees..."

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/NEW-Ebay-answer-on-the-GTC-questions/td-p/29556816/page/3 Message # 47

[daddydarththeone]

I just had 205 listings end yesterday, and none got re-newed. This new policy seems to be hit-and-miss, or maybe by country? 

[dollybeauty]

@daddydarththeone 

This is not scheduled to start until the 15th.

[tkmops]

I was responding to the post right before mine, where someone said 'Ebay changed our 30 day listings to GTC from 19 February 2019 - but they didn't wait for the 30 day listings to end...just changed them to GTC at the end of the cycle!!'

[shipscript]

@sarandipitybay 

I found the quoted comment to be conflicted, so it makes no sense without knowing if the Australian seller had auto-relist turned on.  If they had auto-relist turned on, then it appears the conversion worked as predicted.  If eBay did apply the flag mid-cycle so that a normally ending listing converted to GTC instead of ending, then eBay learned from Australia to do it differently here.

The announcement for the US is quite clear that listings will end unless they are already set to auto-relist. I see no ambiguity in the statement below:

https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center/seller-updates/2019-early/index.html#fixed-price-listing

Starting in mid-March 2019, the listing duration for all new  fixed price listings on eBay will be Good 'Til Cancelled. Existing fixed price listings that are not Good 'Til Cancelled will continue until they sell or end at their specified duration. If a short-duration fixed price item is relisted, the duration will be set to Good 'Til Cancelled upon relist.

[tkmops]

I'm confused by your statement 'The announcement for the US is quite clear that listings will end unless they are already set to auto-relist. I see no ambiguity in the statement below', and what is said in that link:'Starting in mid-March 2019, the listing duration for all new fixed price listings on eBay will be Good 'Til Cancelled. Existing fixed price listings that are not Good 'Til Cancelled will continue until they sell or end at their specified duration.

I'm probably reading it wrong, or just don't understand...you said 'that listings will end unless they are already set to auto-relist', but in the link it says 'Starting in mid-March 2019, the listing duration for all new fixed price listings on eBay will be Good 'Til Cancelled'.

Or, is it that all current listings(and ones made up to Mar 14th), will end when you want them to end, and any new listings made on Mar 15th, and later will be GTC?

[shipscript]

Most sellers understand that a manual relist creates a NEW listing with a new item number and new visitor count.

Part of the confusion may come from not realizing that when a fixed price listing has auto-relist turned on, a NEW listing with a new Item number and new visitor count is created at the end of the cycle when the item relists. So that is the NEW that is used in the context of eBay's announcement.

A GTC listing just keeps extending its ending date by 30 days at the end of every cycle. The Item number and visitor count are retained. It is the same listing, not a new listing, when it renews at the end of a cycle.

Understanding these two fundamental differences between "auto-relist" and "auto-renew" may help when interpreting eBay's announcements. All short term listings become NEW listings if extended beyond their original term by manual or auto relisting them.

Any current short term listing (not GTC) will complete it's cycle (no cycle is longer than 30 days). When the cycle ends, the listing will end. However, if the listing has auto-relist turned on, then when the cycle ends and the listing ends, the listing will automatically roll into a NEW listing. 

A short-term fixed price listing (not auctions) will roll into GTC if the cycle ends after mid-March (an exact date is not provided), but if it automatically rolls earlier than that, there will be one more cycle in the old format and then the conversion will occur in the next cycle that starts after mid-March. 

None of this applies if auto-relist is not turned on.  In that case, the listings will just end on their scheduled dates. Only when attempting to relist those after mid-March would they be forced into GTC.

[shipscript]

@tkmops 

If you don't understand my explanation above, keep asking and I'll try to rephrase. Many others are getting this either.

[shipscript]

Here's another explanation:

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Applying-Out-of-Stock-on-GTC-listings-some-info-for-beginners/...

[nobody*s_perfect]

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@daddydarththeone wrote: ... I have listings that are due to end in 21 days...if I don't want them to get re-newed, do I need to end them a few hours before their scheduled end time?

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No, you don't have to end them.  Fixed price listings that are scheduled to end without any automatic renewal will not automatically renew.  But if you relist that item, the only option for the duration of a fixed price listing will be GTC.

[tkmops]

'No, you don't have to end them. Fixed price listings that are scheduled to end without any automatic renewal will not automatically renew. But if you relist that item, the only option for the duration of a fixed price listing will be GTC.'

Ah, that explains it(I think). So, all my current listing will end, and any new fixed listings(made on or after Mar 15th) will be GTC, and I will have to end them a few hours before their end time?

[dollybeauty]

"Ah, that explains it(I think). So, all my current listing will end, and any new fixed listings(made on or after Mar 15th) will be GTC, and I will have to end them a few hours before their end time? "

Yes, if you do not wish them to relist (GTC) you will have to end them. Hint...For you and others reading this, if you are on SellerHub, look at the 'Listings' panel. There is a line that says, 'Ending today'. Click on that to see all of your items, that you may wish to end, without going through all of your active listings. You can also click on 'Active listings', then click on the heading 'Time left'. This will sort all of your active listings by the time til relist.

[ovisdallii]

This is really bad for small sellers! We can't accept more free offers during the month because of the mad scramble to cancel them. (They additionally offer 100-200 free listings usually,) and as mentioned we can't choose which ones relist or change them. This feels more like a hostage situation, than the great site it was before, where everyone can be comfortable listing.

[ovisdallii]

It is not reasonable to rush to put up 500 listings (in the short time frame they give us)  and then have to frantically delete them one by one in a month.   I have to go in and out  and start all over again after a deletion.   The site used to welcome non-professionals with unique merchandise.  

When exactly do they need to be deleted? How long before they expire?    They won't like us cancelling,  and we won't have the option of  "to beat relisting fees."   I deleted a hundred one time and I was filtered out the entire month.  (You can tell by the inactivity.)   

Maybe they are  saying "We don't like the diversity we get from students, seniors and other non-professionals."    It used to be a great site where we worked together and all different kinds of sellers offered unique items other sites don't.     Not everyone likes it over at  'The  River,'  with the throat cutting mentality,  and conformity in all choices.

[mypaymentstest]

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@shipscript wrote:

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@daddydarththeone wrote:

Well, it looks like, until I find another Turbo Lister like program, I'm going to have to either individually, or in bulk, list 100 items per store(2), per month, and just let them auto-new, and add new items as some of those 200 items sell. Ah well, looks like the 5 years I spent loading up my Turbo Lister with 55,314 items is wasted. I still have all my pictures and descriptions. If loading up new listings every few months is what I gotta do, well, then, it's what I gotta do. I don't sell a whole lot, so I guess it not that big a deal...maybe eBay will introduce another Turbo Lister like bulk upload tool in the future?

BTW, how can I contact eBay, to request/plead for them to keep Turbo Lister? Is there a 'contact eBay-suggestions' link somewhere?  

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I think if we just mention  @mypaymentstest  here in this messeage, we can add your plight to the list of sellers who need a solution to replace Turbo Lister in order to manage the storage and rotation of inventory.  Mykal, is there anything in Selling Manager Pro that can assist? How long does "inventory" last in that tool and what exactly is inventory in SMP?

Exporting a CSV from Turbo Lister that you could convert to File Exchange format is a partial solution for rotating your inventory into live listings, but it still would require uploading your photos somehow.

This is the dilemma I've already reported to staff:

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Tools-Apps/Turbo-Lister-vs-Seller-Hub-and-File-Exchange/m-p/29560426

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@shipscript - Selling Manager Pro/Seller Hub - Inventory can store listing templates as long as you have the subscription active on your account.

From time to time, stored listing templates in Selling Manager Pro/Seller Hub - Inventory should be updated to be in compliance with any further site updates and policy changes.

Exporting listings from Turbo Lister as a File Exchange file is an option. The file that is generated as a File Exchange format file through Turbo Lister will have additional information and headers in the file that our system (File Exchange) no longer needs, so some recommended adjustment to the file before uploading to File Exchange is advised.

There is no plans to develop another offline tools like Turbo Lister. Most features that are liked in Turbo Lister has transition over to online selling form and listing process.

Hope this help.

Sincerely,

mykal@ebay

eBay Support