03-12-2025 09:51 AM
Back in February I had purchased a fairly valuable, ungraded trading card that was being shipped from Japan with the expectation that the card was in good condition. The card's listing described it as lightly played, and the images showed it as having very little wear too. However, upon receiving the card there was a noticeable dent in the face of the card that the seller's images did not clearly depict, and upon checking the photos more closely it became clear to me that damage was present there, but the photos were carefully taken to obscure it.
Messaging the seller resulted in them "checking with the shipping manager" and after pointing out where the damage could just barely be seen in their photographs they apologized for the oversight (something which I took as an admission that the condition was not what it should have been) and then tried to offer me a partial refund. However, I preferred to return the item outright and receive a full refund instead, so I returned the card with a trackable shipping number.
A day after recieving the returned card the seller opened a case with customer service. In their open case the seller simply stated;
"I shipped an item with a certificate of authenticity but there was no certificate of authenticity and it was not in a clear bag. I am concerned that it may have been switched. Best regards.""I shipped an item with a certificate of authenticity but there was no certificate of authenticity and it was not in a clear bag. I am concerned that it may have been switched. Best regards."
Apparently, despite the original listing having no mention or image of any kind of certificate of authenticity, the card written in Japanese that was attached to the generic "thank you for buying" page was a certificate of some sort, despite the fact that it didn't have any kind of photograph of the card it was supposedly authenticating. Obviously I can't read Japanese and thus assumed that both pieces of paper were rubbish and disposed of them, but now since I didn't include the both of those in the return the seller seems to be "worried" that I somehow switched the card I returned, even though it should be easy to visually tell it's the same card just by comparing it to their own photographs in the listing.
Doing a cursory google search shows that the "certificate of authenticity" is just a Mercari authentication label that apparently only costs $5 and is done by submitting photographs of the item you authenticate, so it's not like this has any great bearing on the value of the return. Given everything I can't help but feel that the seller is trying to pull a fast one at this point, as the value of the return is fairly high (less then 1k, but not by much).
My question is, is there anything I need to do in this situation?
I've been an ebay member since 2010 and have perfect feedback (unlike this seller), and almost never return anything I buy ever (I think this might be the first?). Given everything that has happened, should I expect to receive my money back in this situation? Or will I need to supply ebay with proof that I reasonably did everything that was expected of me in this situation?
03-12-2025 02:00 PM - edited 03-12-2025 02:01 PM
This sounds sufficiently complex that I would inquire with eBay at one of their social media accounts, where you will receive competent advice and support.
I use Facebook/eBay... send a message, validate your account and explain the problem.
The good news -- if you can call it that -- is that the seller is not accusing you of having switched the card, only expressing that that is a concern of his.
PS: I'm assuming that you opened a return for item not as described, and that the seller provided you with a return label, correct?
03-12-2025 02:06 PM
I was considering reaching out to ebay somehow, but hadn't yet done so. The details of the return case now just say;
Hang on, we're still reviewing your case.
We'll be in touch with you soon.
If you change your mind, you can close this case.
I did request a return and the seller did indeed provide me with a return label, which is how it was shipped back from the US to Japan. I had listed the return as under "Arrived Damaged" category due to the large dent in the face of the card, which was visible even from the back.
03-12-2025 04:41 PM
what shipping method does your seller use?
03-12-2025 05:18 PM
The item was both sent to me and returned to them via DHL shipping.
03-12-2025 05:43 PM
Was item listed as 'authenticity guarantee' on item for sale on eBay or not?
Item was returned to eBay 'authenticity' and then to seller?
Or was it sent back directly to seller?
The most important information here is how was it sold and returned.
This has nothing much ado about what seller or buyer states...only how it was for sale.
And being an eBay member for a long time is worthless these days.
03-12-2025 07:37 PM
Ok, I 'think' everything has been resolved. I reached out to ebay and managed to get a hold of an agent through their facebook page, and after informing them of the details of the case they seemed to agree with me. According to them;
Thank you so much for the additional information! Looking over the details on this case, we can see this item was confirmed as delivered back to the seller, so we're issuing you a full refund. Any concerns that your seller has with the return they can work with us directly, but this will not impact you from your side of things, so no worries there. We appreciate you fulfilling your part in getting this returned. You should get an email confirming this today, and most refunds appear back in your account within 48 hours, so keep an eye out for that. I hope you'll be able to find a replacement that works better for you. I appreciate you allowing me to assist you with this today. We hope you enjoy the rest of your week, and thank you for contacting eBay!
Thanks to @fbusoni for the suggestion.
03-13-2025 03:12 AM
@bakura333 wrote:Ok, I 'think' everything has been resolved. I reached out to ebay and managed to get a hold of an agent through their facebook page, and after informing them of the details of the case they seemed to agree with me. According to them;
Thank you so much for the additional information! Looking over the details on this case, we can see this item was confirmed as delivered back to the seller, so we're issuing you a full refund. Any concerns that your seller has with the return they can work with us directly, but this will not impact you from your side of things, so no worries there. We appreciate you fulfilling your part in getting this returned. You should get an email confirming this today, and most refunds appear back in your account within 48 hours, so keep an eye out for that. I hope you'll be able to find a replacement that works better for you. I appreciate you allowing me to assist you with this today. We hope you enjoy the rest of your week, and thank you for contacting eBay!
Thanks to @fbusoni for the suggestion.
Good to know, but I would just caution you that things could turn around again just as quickly... keeping my fingers crossed for you!