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Weekly Community Chat, July 5th @ 1pm PT - General Topics

alan@ebay
eBay Staff (Alumni)

Hi Community, 

 

We hope that you had a wonderful Fourth of July!

 

Please join the Community team at 1 pm Pacific on Wednesday 7/5 for our weekly chat. There isn't a set topic this week so feel free to ask us your eBay buying & selling questions. 

 

Talk to you then!

Alan - eBay Community Manager


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@bigmotormania wrote:

Hello Alan, Trinton, Heidi, Tyler.

 

Been awhile since I was available to participate in the weekly chat so I don't even remember the things I was gonna ask, sad sad, however, I do have a question that's been concerning me as of late.

 

I've had a few people (from different countries, not sure if this is important or not, different policies etc) who have been sending me their addresses in messages asking me what I would charge for shipping. The reason this concerns me is I don't want to be caught in some crossfire on the matter. I do respond to the messages informing them that I only ship internationally through the GSP and I do not yield any information, links, numbers, addresses, emails, et cetera, but I still get worried with how drastically unreliable the bots can be that someone sending me their address or contact information might somehow have a negative effect on me. 

 

I do not ask for contact information and even before the new policies went in and the bots started going crazy on people for giving phone numbers I refused to utilize contact information given to me, people sending me phone numbers to which I would immediately respond that I do not contact outside of eBay, as I want my own paper trail in the event something bad happens in regard to any of those transactions.

 

So basically my main inquiry here is as long as I don't respond in kind, do people sending me contact info or addresses have any potential to negatively impact me, who refuses to have anything to do with said contact information?

 

Thanks, and Happy Belated 4th to you all, firework smoke has me feeling super icky today but it was a great Independence Day regardless.


Hey @bigmotormania - fair question! As long as it's clear from your messages that you don't intend to to take the transaction off-site, you should be fine. It sounds like you're already doing exactly what we'd suggest: responding with statements that you ship through GSP or that you keep all communication on eBay. 

 

To your specific question: don't let those messages go unaddressed, respond and let them know that you ship only through GSP. Bots could take action if an address is sent and then for an unrelated reason the listing is ended, with no messaging between you. We would see that as an indicator the transaction is taken off eBay. 

Tyler,
eBay
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@d-k_treasures

 

To my knowledge all internet sites have shopping carts that function that way.  And physical stores for that matter.  The act of placing it into your cart does not create a purchase until you are ready to check out.  It would quickly become a nightmare if just putting something in your shopping cart created an actual sale.  We would be cancelling transactions a great deal and I could see the unpaid items increasing too.  

 

It is annoying when you have stuff in your cart and you are ready to check out only to find something that you wanted is now sold out.  It certainly has happened to me a few times, but it isn't the function of the shopping cart to act as anything but a cart to put the items you want to buy in until you are ready to purchase.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

"I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you." Quote from Edward I Koch

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@Anonymous wrote:

@carlmarxx wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@carlmarxx wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Welcome to the weekly chat everyone! I hope your 4th of July was bright and amazing! Looking forward to discussing whatever is on your mind this afternoon 🙂

 

The chat is now open!


I got pulled back into a Old Beta test , that  has all sellers items BIN's as IMPR  and forced to use the  check out  cart  to request total . I don't why ebay has not junked the old program.  I want out of it


Hi @carlmarxx - We tested this a ways back but have recently made changes to help in our efforts of reducing Unpaid Item cases. There isn't an option to opt out of this feature but I encourage you to have your buyers use the cart and ensure your combined shipping rules are set up so that it's automatically being combined for your buyer.        What RIgHT Does Ebay Have to Butt in!  I guess I will have3 to call up and Rasie Hell ! over this !


 


No need to call, @carlmarxx. We're happy to take your feedback here and share with those involved with this update. Thanks for sharing this! 


I will still Call ! 

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@rw011164 wrote:

The cart feature is a nightmare for us. We ship by freight and so we wrote buyers their shipping rates and then have to add the quoted shipping rate to their invoice.

 

For some idiotic reason which no CSR can explain, our buyers using the cart are being told by ebay that we do not deliver to their area. WHICH IS NOT TRUE. It should say to please contact the seller for a shipping quote. We have lost business over this, which I had thought was a glitch but was recently told cannot be changed


I will reach out to you via email for more details on this so we can work on a solution!

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@d-k_treasures wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@carlmarxx wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Welcome to the weekly chat everyone! I hope your 4th of July was bright and amazing! Looking forward to discussing whatever is on your mind this afternoon 🙂

 

The chat is now open!


I got pulled back into a Old Beta test , that  has all sellers items BIN's as IMPR  and forced to use the  check out  cart  to request total . I don't why ebay has not junked the old program.  I want out of it


Hi @carlmarxx - We tested this a ways back but have recently made changes to help in our efforts of reducing Unpaid Item cases. There isn't an option to opt out of this feature but I encourage you to have your buyers use the cart and ensure your combined shipping rules are set up so that it's automatically being combined for your buyer. 


But using (what you call) a shopping cart allows someone else to buy it out from under you. So what good it is if you want to buy multiple items from one seller?

 


Hi @d-k_treasures - Generally buyers who are purchasing multiple items from one seller will do it all within one shopping trip on eBay. Due to feedback from our sellers, we want to limit the number of non-paying buyers and in order to do that, we're pushing them through the checkout flow before showing the item as purchased/sold. We understand that it can impact some businesses more than others and we've shared that feedback with the relevant team. 

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The bots still may think you are guilty of taking a sale off ebay. This happened to us. A buyer send a question for shipping and included her phone number. I responded with the shipping quote. I DID NOT CALL the phone number. The listing ended. We relisted it and that buyer then bought it ON EBAY. We received a policy violation accusing us of taking the sale off ebay. After 2 hours on the phone I did manage to get the violation removed since it was very easy to see that the sale happened ON EBAY

 


tyler@ebay wrote:

@bigmotormania wrote:

Hello Alan, Trinton, Heidi, Tyler.

 

Been awhile since I was available to participate in the weekly chat so I don't even remember the things I was gonna ask, sad sad, however, I do have a question that's been concerning me as of late.

 

I've had a few people (from different countries, not sure if this is important or not, different policies etc) who have been sending me their addresses in messages asking me what I would charge for shipping. The reason this concerns me is I don't want to be caught in some crossfire on the matter. I do respond to the messages informing them that I only ship internationally through the GSP and I do not yield any information, links, numbers, addresses, emails, et cetera, but I still get worried with how drastically unreliable the bots can be that someone sending me their address or contact information might somehow have a negative effect on me. 

 

I do not ask for contact information and even before the new policies went in and the bots started going crazy on people for giving phone numbers I refused to utilize contact information given to me, people sending me phone numbers to which I would immediately respond that I do not contact outside of eBay, as I want my own paper trail in the event something bad happens in regard to any of those transactions.

 

So basically my main inquiry here is as long as I don't respond in kind, do people sending me contact info or addresses have any potential to negatively impact me, who refuses to have anything to do with said contact information?

 

Thanks, and Happy Belated 4th to you all, firework smoke has me feeling super icky today but it was a great Independence Day regardless.


Hey @bigmotormania - fair question! As long as it's clear from your messages that you don't intend to to take the transaction off-site, you should be fine. It sounds like you're already doing exactly what we'd suggest: responding with statements that you ship through GSP or that you keep all communication on eBay. 

 

To your specific question: don't let those messages go unaddressed, respond and let them know that you ship only through GSP. Bots could take action if an address is sent and then for an unrelated reason the listing is ended, with no messaging between you. We would see that as an indicator the transaction is taken off eBay. 


 

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Hi friends,

What does the new item specific "bundle listings = -, yes, no" actually do?  I would like to learn about it and know how I should be setting it in my listings.

 

Thanks,

David (DJ)

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@mam98031 wrote:

@d-k_treasures

 

To my knowledge all internet sites have shopping carts that function that way.  And physical stores for that matter.  The act of placing it into your cart does not create a purchase until you are ready to check out.  It would quickly become a nightmare if just putting something in your shopping cart created an actual sale.  We would be cancelling transactions a great deal and I could see the unpaid items increasing too.  

 

It is annoying when you have stuff in your cart and you are ready to check out only to find something that you wanted is now sold out.  It certainly has happened to me a few times, but it isn't the function of the shopping cart to act as anything but a cart to put the items you want to buy in until you are ready to purchase.


D.K.  I do bids on auctions from same seller , Which in some cases has other items as BIN  , but don't require payment ASAP .   Other problem is  you sellers that don't setup combined shipping . 

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@mam98031 wrote:

@d-k_treasures

 

To my knowledge all internet sites have shopping carts that function that way.  And physical stores for that matter.  The act of placing it into your cart does not create a purchase until you are ready to check out.  It would quickly become a nightmare if just putting something in your shopping cart created an actual sale.  We would be cancelling transactions a great deal and I could see the unpaid items increasing too.  

 

It is annoying when you have stuff in your cart and you are ready to check out only to find something that you wanted is now sold out.  It certainly has happened to me a few times, but it isn't the function of the shopping cart to act as anything but a cart to put the items you want to buy in until you are ready to purchase.


Most internet sites have shopping carts that function properly.

 

Bu most internet sites sell NIB stuff. I have no problem with using the Amazon shopping cart - at least it locks it in for the deals of the days for 15 minutes so you can continue on.

 

If someone puts up a list of good antique toys at great prices, if kept this way, I would probably only buy one and not the other three I might have had my eye on, because I would probably get beat out of all four. 

 

Not everything works well with vintage/antique/OOAK items. The shopping cart and auto BIN w/IPR is one of them.

 

It's why I only do auctions here. So buyers don't have to worry.

 

 

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@Anonymous wrote:

@d-k_treasures wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@carlmarxx wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Welcome to the weekly chat everyone! I hope your 4th of July was bright and amazing! Looking forward to discussing whatever is on your mind this afternoon 🙂

 

The chat is now open!


I got pulled back into a Old Beta test , that  has all sellers items BIN's as IMPR  and forced to use the  check out  cart  to request total . I don't why ebay has not junked the old program.  I want out of it


Hi @carlmarxx - We tested this a ways back but have recently made changes to help in our efforts of reducing Unpaid Item cases. There isn't an option to opt out of this feature but I encourage you to have your buyers use the cart and ensure your combined shipping rules are set up so that it's automatically being combined for your buyer. 


But using (what you call) a shopping cart allows someone else to buy it out from under you. So what good it is if you want to buy multiple items from one seller?

 


Hi @d-k_treasures - Generally buyers who are purchasing multiple items from one seller will do it all within one shopping trip on eBay. Due to feedback from our sellers, we want to limit the number of non-paying buyers and in order to do that, we're pushing them through the checkout flow before showing the item as purchased/sold. We understand that it can impact some businesses more than others and we've shared that feedback with the relevant team. 


Ummmmm ...... that function is already there for the SELLER to choose, not to have ebay choose it for them.

 

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tyler@ebay wrote:


Hey @bigmotormania - fair question! As long as it's clear from your messages that you don't intend to to take the transaction off-site, you should be fine. It sounds like you're already doing exactly what we'd suggest: responding with statements that you ship through GSP or that you keep all communication on eBay. 

 

To your specific question: don't let those messages go unaddressed, respond and let them know that you ship only through GSP. Bots could take action if an address is sent and then for an unrelated reason the listing is ended, with no messaging between you. We would see that as an indicator the transaction is taken off eBay. 


tyler@ebay 

 

I do eBay for a company and I don't work on the weekends, so sometimes when I have to take time off work I could be out for 4-5 days easily at a time, to which I cannot respond to messages sent to me, in the event of this and someone sends me information I don't want when asking about a particular item, and the listing times out (all my listings are put up to time out at the same time, makes for easier relisting, ya know?) but wasn't purposefully or manually ended, could that potentially cause a mixup or does a listing timing out and a listing being ended (it doesn't ask for a reason when ending multiple listings) get treated as entirely separate? 

 

I don't trust bots, I'm sure you can understand why I don't trust bots. Bots don't understand the difference between intent and a lack thereof, or just simply happenstance. 

 

I'm sure you can understand my skepticism when it comes to bots, virtual intelligence just like humans has great potential to make huge mistakes, and for some people this could be life endangering as this might be their only option for making money and all it takes is a single word in a listing to destroy that livelihood.

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@lintbrush* wrote:

I am curious why eBay doesn't display a seller's handlign time unless it's more than 4 days.

 

On Monday alone there were 2 different threads - one from a buyer; one from a seller.

 

The seller received a message over the weekend from their buyer who purchased on Thursday and was wondering why the item hadn't posted yet and wanted a refund.  The seller had a 2 day handling time and wasn't required to even ship it until Monday.

 

The buyer wondered why their seller hadn't marked the item shipped yet and given tracking after a day.  They were upset.  If the seller had a 2 or 3 day handling time, they (or we) wouldn't know.

 

These situations could be so easily handling if the sellers' handling times were posted on the listing - like they used to be.  It would save grief for the buyer and seller alike.  

 

These were not isolated posts.  We see a lot like this that could often be easily answered (or simply not asked) if the information was provided.


Hi @lintbrush* - I just ran some searches and see exactly what you're saying. On certain listings the handling time is stated, on others it has been rolled into the estimated delivery date, but not necessarily stipulated when to expect a tracking number. 

 

I am not sure if this is a test or a roll-out change. I completely see how that would lead to poor experiences all around. I'll see what more I can find out and update you as I get info. 

Tyler,
eBay
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@Anonymous wrote:

@d-k_treasures wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@carlmarxx wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Welcome to the weekly chat everyone! I hope your 4th of July was bright and amazing! Looking forward to discussing whatever is on your mind this afternoon 🙂

 

The chat is now open!


I got pulled back into a Old Beta test , that  has all sellers items BIN's as IMPR  and forced to use the  check out  cart  to request total . I don't why ebay has not junked the old program.  I want out of it


Hi @carlmarxx - We tested this a ways back but have recently made changes to help in our efforts of reducing Unpaid Item cases. There isn't an option to opt out of this feature but I encourage you to have your buyers use the cart and ensure your combined shipping rules are set up so that it's automatically being combined for your buyer. 


But using (what you call) a shopping cart allows someone else to buy it out from under you. So what good it is if you want to buy multiple items from one seller?

 


Hi @d-k_treasures - Generally buyers who are purchasing multiple items from one seller will do it all within one shopping trip on eBay. Due to feedback from our sellers, we want to limit the number of non-paying buyers and in order to do that, we're pushing them through the checkout flow before showing the item as purchased/sold. We understand that it can impact some businesses more than others and we've shared that feedback with the relevant team.                 How About If I have by Corp. Lawyer  have at  ebay for infering with by business


 

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@carlmarxx wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

@d-k_treasures

 

To my knowledge all internet sites have shopping carts that function that way.  And physical stores for that matter.  The act of placing it into your cart does not create a purchase until you are ready to check out.  It would quickly become a nightmare if just putting something in your shopping cart created an actual sale.  We would be cancelling transactions a great deal and I could see the unpaid items increasing too.  

 

It is annoying when you have stuff in your cart and you are ready to check out only to find something that you wanted is now sold out.  It certainly has happened to me a few times, but it isn't the function of the shopping cart to act as anything but a cart to put the items you want to buy in until you are ready to purchase.


D.K.  I do bids on auctions from same seller , Which in some cases has other items as BIN  , but don't require payment ASAP .   Other problem is  you sellers that don't setup combined shipping . 


However, with a BIN with ebay auto-IPR, that doesn't work.

 

And with a lot of different items, there is no way anyone can set up combined shipping rules for antiques.

 

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@Anonymous wrote:

@goodluckselling wrote:

I want to ask this question but I would apopreciate you reading all the way through so as to not assume what the post is about before replying. I am not asking about a specific transaction as this is a general security question.

 

My questions understands it is against eBay policy to try to conduct business off eBay with a potential buyer who started communications on the eBay site.  I am not trying to avoid anyfees or break any policies.  I am tryinf to clarify eBay polciy.

 

Is it possible for a potential buyer who has not purchased yet but has had eBay communications with a seller - to obtain the sellers registered eBay email address?   I want you to think about the possibilities like

  • user agreement policys at different eBay country sites,
  • CS giving the buyer the info,
  • buyer submitting a request for sellers email address and eBay fulfilling the request.

 

Also if it is possible for a buyer to obtain this info without a purchase can you direct me and others to the policy that allows this? 

 

Good Luck Selling!

 


Hi @goodluckselling - A buyer should never be given a seller's email address by CS or by our systems here on eBay, at any point during a transaction. It's possible a teammate can make an error but if that happens, we'd like to know about it right away to ensure it doesn't happen again.  


Thanks for your explanation.  Could you or someone else review this thread and tell us why this seller and many others who have participated in that thread are experiencing security uncertainty with eBay due to secured info you have confirmed would not be released without purchase history.

 

http://community.ebay.com/t5/Selling/Against-eBay-rules/m-p/27182811#M997041

 

Good Luck Selling!

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