06-17-2020 01:00 PM
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06-17-2020 01:49 PM
06-17-2020 01:50 PM
@vrykalak wrote:Hi @coinslabz26 - there is not a way to exclude mutli-variation listings from your search results. If you are aware of specific sellers who do this you can do an advanced search to remove them, but definitely a lot of work and not 100% effective by any means.
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Some time ago, in this chat, the idea was proposed that "variations" had to be the same price...like different colors or sizes of shirts.
People seemed to like that idea, that it would solve the problem being discussed.
How about implementing that requirement?
That would have a significant impact to many sellers that use the variations within the rules Ebay has set forth for us. Like in fragrances. A listing for a particular fragrance has sizes in the listing. But each size is a different price. Or in beads, often times the number of beads being purchased will have different prices, not just color or size. I could go on, but there are many valid reasons to have different prices within a variation listing.
06-17-2020 01:53 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@vrykalak wrote:Hi @coinslabz26 - there is not a way to exclude mutli-variation listings from your search results. If you are aware of specific sellers who do this you can do an advanced search to remove them, but definitely a lot of work and not 100% effective by any means.
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Some time ago, in this chat, the idea was proposed that "variations" had to be the same price...like different colors or sizes of shirts.
People seemed to like that idea, that it would solve the problem being discussed.
How about implementing that requirement?That would have a significant impact to many sellers that use the variations within the rules Ebay has set forth for us. Like in fragrances. A listing for a particular fragrance has sizes in the listing. But each size is a different price. Or in beads, often times the number of beads being purchased will have different prices, not just color or size. I could go on, but there are many valid reasons to have different prices within a variation listing.
Maybe the variation listings should have more appropriate placement based on the search terms. If I am searching for a 12oz bottle of fragrance then my result should show that variation listing based on the price for the size I am looking for and not the cheapest option.
06-17-2020 01:54 PM
@pursesbrasplusmore wrote:
- The June 12, 2020 ebay seller update on Google Shopping stated pics need to be 800 x 800 pixels. Is this ebay’s new guidelines for all clothing? I’ve always read 1600 on the longest side. I sell mostly clothing and my pics are mostly closely cropped rectangles. If I need to change a long dress into a square, how would I do that? It completely distorts the picture. Also, is this for the main photo only, or for all ie. 5-10 photos in each listing? Please clarify.
- On sending watchers offers, my send offer list has some that say 0 watchers, but when I click on them say 1 interested. I do not want to annoy watchers that aren’t watching my items. Which is it? 0 or 1?
1. That's a great question! I'm going to look into this more and get back to you.
2. Hmm that's strange. I'd love to look at an example to see if there may be an issue that I can get reported. If you want to tag me in a thread with an example then I'll take a look 🙂
06-17-2020 01:54 PM
@vrykalak wrote:
Hi @coinslabz26 - there is not a way to exclude mutli-variation listings from your search results. If you are aware of specific sellers who do this you can do an advanced search to remove them, but definitely a lot of work and not 100% effective by any means.
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Some time ago, in this chat, the idea was proposed that "variations" had to be the same price...like different colors or sizes of shirts.
People seemed to like that idea, that it would solve the problem being discussed.
How about implementing that requirement?
Hi @vrykalak - variations exist to allow members to sell similar items with minor variations, you're correct. However, as you can imagine, not all variations end up costing the same, or having the same price point. For example, a red shirt may be more popular and harder to source at the same price and availability as the same shirt in blue. That's a reason why we don't require that variations be identical.
Thanks!
06-17-2020 01:56 PM
@papermoneyforme wrote:
@mam98031 wrote:
@papermoneyforme wrote:
@coinslabz26 wrote:
@gwzcomps wrote:
@coinslabz26 wrote:
Is there any way of removing multi quantity item listings from search results filtered by price plus shipping lowest first?
Example. If I need to search ebay for a 32GB Memory card and filter by "price plus shipping lowest first" I will see results "$10 to $50" and it will be like a 1gb card that is $10 and $50 for the 32GB card. Obviously the 1GB card for $10 was not part of my search. There are even worse results where I could be searching for a bike and see price $5 to $500 where $5 is the bike horn and $500 is the bike, yet it still shows that as a lowest price because of that horn option.
How do I remove those results from my search?OMG I hate that and it is abused so badly. With the memory card search the best you can do is this for your search terms:
32gb sd card -1gb -2gb -4gb -8gb -16gb
That of course is assuming you are looking for a SD card. The problem is you do run the risk of filtering out a good deal. Maybe someone is selling a 32GB memory card bundled with a 16GB card for $2 less than the going rate. That search I supplied would remove that listing.
That was just one example of many. I face this every time I look for something. Everything I look for has this type grossly miscategorized type of results. I used memory cards as an example because it is easier to understand.
Because Ebay allows these types of bait and switch listings
They are NOT "bait and switch" listings. That would imply that sellers allow you to order a certain item, pay for it and then ship you something you did not order and that has a lesser value. That is beyond insulting and is totally ridiculous.
Variation listings are extremely useful tools for sellers and when used properly gives buyers the opportunity to see all their options on a particular product. I've used them for years and I'm not "bait and switch" seller.
Now there are sellers that misuse the privilege of being able to use a variation listing and when that happens they should be reported for breaking the rules. But when it is for a particular item like a memory card or Tshirt that comes in different sizes and colors. That is an appropriate use of a variation listing.
But when a seller throws in an unrelated item because it is less expensive, that is wrong and should be reported. Or if the listing is for completely unrelated items. If you want to stop them, report them so that Ebay has an easier time of locating listings that violate policy.
Reporting has become a joke and nothing happens as has been posted many times on these boards.
Sorry to say but with what just happened internally with Ebay, I have little faith in much that Ebay says or does and all the secrecy it uses is becoming absolutely uncalled for.
I don't mean reporting someone else's post but to report the listing. That you wouldn't see anything about on the boards. And Ebay isn't going to report to you what they did when you reported a listing. But you have a valid point and prior to all era of the Pandemic, I too would agree, we would report listings and nothing seemed to have ever happened. That was certainly my experience. But in recent months that has seemed to change. However keep in mind that just because we report a listing doesn't mean that Ebay will agree with us on the reason and may or may not do anything to the seller or their listing. It is a case by case basis.
What happened in Ebay didn't "just happen" it was almost a year ago. We are just finding out about it, that is certainly true and is very concerning to be sure. But likely nothing could be said until indictments were handed down. That seems pretty standard stuff to me not that anyone was trying to keep info from us but that the FBI was trying to get their case built. So while you may feel it is "uncalled for", I'm betting the FBI would have a different opinion.
06-17-2020 01:57 PM
@mam98031 wrote:
@vrykalak wrote:Hi @coinslabz26 - there is not a way to exclude mutli-variation listings from your search results. If you are aware of specific sellers who do this you can do an advanced search to remove them, but definitely a lot of work and not 100% effective by any means.
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Some time ago, in this chat, the idea was proposed that "variations" had to be the same price...like different colors or sizes of shirts.
People seemed to like that idea, that it would solve the problem being discussed.
How about implementing that requirement?That would have a significant impact to many sellers that use the variations within the rules Ebay has set forth for us. Like in fragrances. A listing for a particular fragrance has sizes in the listing. But each size is a different price. Or in beads, often times the number of beads being purchased will have different prices, not just color or size. I could go on, but there are many valid reasons to have different prices within a variation listing.
Many bait and switch variation listings will show a very low priced item and lo and behold it is no longer in stock but the pricier items are.
06-17-2020 01:59 PM
@gwzcomps wrote:
What are the rules for "like" items in variation listings? I have seen it heavily abused in the CPU/Processors category. They will take stuff like a low end i3-2100 and put with more desirable newer processors like an i5-3470, i7-3770, i5-4570, etc. All so they show up lower on the higher priced CPUs.
Or even worse mix desktop and server processors in the same variation claiming the server processor can be used in a desktop with unsupported modifications.
Hi @gwzcomps, that example sounds like it would be considered search & browse manipulation (more info here). Variations within a listing must be comparable in price and are limited to different variations of the same item. If an older model of a processor is paired with a newer model of that processor, and this represents a significant different in price, those items should be listed separately.
Price ranges can be variable, of course, depending on the item in question. I would just recommend reporting any concerns you see so we can review for appropriate action.
06-17-2020 01:59 PM
@Anonymous
For months I have been reporting inconsistencies with my ship dates, my estimated delivery times and the unrealistic shipping times that ebay keeps reporting to my buyers.
You tell me that it doesn't matter.
I posted time and time and time again screen shots showing that I was expected to deliver first class packages across the country the same day or day after I was to ship the package.
My estimated delivery times on Fridays MANDATE that I ship on Saturdays, when Saturday is not considered a business day for shipping, yet ebay has somehow decided that I have to in order to HOPE to meet unrealistic estimates.
All I am asking for is HONESTY. I prepare a label with a ship date of June 17th and ebay prints and posts that I ship June 16th. That is wrong. Are you suggesting that it is impossible to use the date I use in the labels as the date of actual shipping? A computer couldn't pull that date into the program? If I am shipping late in the evening does ebay really think we are running those packages to our "Magical post offices" that accept and send out mail at any time of day or night? I don't live in the big city like you guys. Our post office cut off time is 5pm. After that, it won't do anything until the next day. NOTHING.
Even when the Post office announced an extra day to delivery estimates, ebay has not changed a thing in my estimates. I'm still expected to ship on Saturday and deliver packages across country in two days. I print priority labels that have estimated delivery dates that don't match the dates that ebay shows in the order details.
They are unrealistic estimates and demands that I do the impossible and buyers don't like it.
06-17-2020 01:59 PM
tyler@ebay wrote:
@vrykalak wrote:Hi @coinslabz26 - there is not a way to exclude mutli-variation listings from your search results. If you are aware of specific sellers who do this you can do an advanced search to remove them, but definitely a lot of work and not 100% effective by any means.
----
Some time ago, in this chat, the idea was proposed that "variations" had to be the same price...like different colors or sizes of shirts.
People seemed to like that idea, that it would solve the problem being discussed.
How about implementing that requirement?Hi @vrykalak - variations exist to allow members to sell similar items with minor variations, you're correct. However, as you can imagine, not all variations end up costing the same, or having the same price point. For example, a red shirt may be more popular and harder to source at the same price and availability as the same shirt in blue. That's a reason why we don't require that variations be identical.
Thanks!
I thought there was some price point, low to high, restrictions?
06-17-2020 02:00 PM - edited 06-17-2020 02:00 PM
Am I able to list one that is saved in my 'Drafts' yet? Nothing to do with covid. Thanks!
It's ANSELL Versatouch Gloves-#23 201-P57BL-Blue-XL/10-Food Service/Industrial-EEUC.
06-17-2020 02:02 PM
@gwzcomps wrote:
What are the rules for "like" items in variation listings? I have seen it heavily abused in the CPU/Processors category. They will take stuff like a low end i3-2100 and put with more desirable newer processors like an i5-3470, i7-3770, i5-4570, etc. All so they show up lower on the higher priced CPUs.
Or even worse mix desktop and server processors in the same variation claiming the server processor can be used in a desktop with unsupported modifications.
I'm going to have to defer this to someone on the Chat team. I haven't been able to find the written policy on this for awhile. I should still exist, but I'm not sure how to find it anymore.
Here is what I've found, but I think there is better info out there, I just haven't been able to locate it.
https://pages.ebay.com/mc/en-us/sellerinformation/growing/variation.html
06-17-2020 02:10 PM
@mtgraves7984 wrote:
Am I able to list one that is saved in my 'Drafts' yet? Nothing to do with covid. Thanks!
It's ANSELL Versatouch Gloves-#23 201-P57BL-Blue-XL/10-Food Service/Industrial-EEUC.
Hi @mtgraves7984 - Check your email for more detail on this particular subject. Thanks!
06-17-2020 02:10 PM
@golfingaddict wrote:
@Anonymous
For months I have been reporting inconsistencies with my ship dates, my estimated delivery times and the unrealistic shipping times that ebay keeps reporting to my buyers.
You tell me that it doesn't matter.
I posted time and time and time again screen shots showing that I was expected to deliver first class packages across the country the same day or day after I was to ship the package.
My estimated delivery times on Fridays MANDATE that I ship on Saturdays, when Saturday is not considered a business day for shipping, yet ebay has somehow decided that I have to in order to HOPE to meet unrealistic estimates.
All I am asking for is HONESTY. I prepare a label with a ship date of June 17th and ebay prints and posts that I ship June 16th. That is wrong. Are you suggesting that it is impossible to use the date I use in the labels as the date of actual shipping? A computer couldn't pull that date into the program? If I am shipping late in the evening does ebay really think we are running those packages to our "Magical post offices" that accept and send out mail at any time of day or night? I don't live in the big city like you guys. Our post office cut off time is 5pm. After that, it won't do anything until the next day. NOTHING.
Even when the Post office announced an extra day to delivery estimates, ebay has not changed a thing in my estimates. I'm still expected to ship on Saturday and deliver packages across country in two days. I print priority labels that have estimated delivery dates that don't match the dates that ebay shows in the order details.
They are unrealistic estimates and demands that I do the impossible and buyers don't like it.
Hi @golfingaddict, your concerns with estimated delivery dates and ship by dates are something we've reported on and discussed elsewhere, but the date shown to you as the shipping date after you print the label is not related to any of those calculations. The ship date you supply on the label is not something that eBay refers to, as that date is specifically for the courier. We would not use that information, but instead would look to when the package was scanned as received by the courier, and historical data related to delivery time frames. When you ship the label is not a factor, so I can reassure you that the concerns you have about the shipping date in relation to the when you print a label and when your package is received are not creating any problems for you.
We understand that if you print a label after your post office is closed, the package will not be accepted and begin it's transit to your buyer until the next day. What I am trying to clarify is that the process of shipment has begun, and that is the date we are displaying to you. The process of shipping your item starts when you print a label, and again, the date you print a label has no impact on you; we are only concerned with when the item is received by the courier, and when it is delivered.
Lastly, the post office announced delays in delivery time frames and we added this into our calculation as well. We are happy to look into any discrepancies you are seeing with the estimated delivery date on the courier website, the date that eBay is showing, and the actual delivery date, just get us the details so we can review. I just wanted to be clear that the date you print a label is not a part of a potential issue with delivery estimates or ship by dates, so you don't need to worry about when you print your shipping label or feel like you need to wait until the next day to print your shipping label.
06-17-2020 02:17 PM
Hi everyone, thanks for joining us today. We will continue to reply to any remaining questions and look forward to seeing you next week!