08-15-2023 07:12 PM
I was looking for parts for my car and saw many listings for selling software in the EbayMotor category. All of these listings had two categories at the same time. The first is EbayMotor, the second is Software. All of these listings were promotional. They only advertised scam sites and the description clearly stated that this product cannot be bought on Ebay.
I have already clicked on such a link on Ebay once and lost money. Seeing this, I sent the report to the listing. One of the listings was removed, but hundreds of new ones have appeared. And even now there are dozens of them every hour. Just search for "Windows 10" or "Microsoft Office" and you'll see dozens of listings with links in the results. Ebay in these categories is littered with junk listings.
I've been watching this for over a month. Nothing has changed. It feels like Ebay support is so dumb that they just can't handle this issue.
Ebay used to be a great site, but now it seems to be turning into a dump and infantile support.
I would like to see support comments and finally actions to eradicate garbage from Ebay
08-16-2023 09:24 AM
Hey devon@ebay
OP followed the correct process and reported listings, but it appears there is larger abuse taking place and members shouldn't have to report a flood of listings.
Is it possible on your end to let the correct department know that software listings are populating in the motors category so they can set up filters or whatever it is they do to monitor when there's broad abuse across a category?
Here are a couple of direct links, filtered to the motors category. These listings even have external eBay websites in the subtitle, and no doubt what they're selling is not permitted by Microsoft or eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=windows+10
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=microsoft+office
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=microsoft&_sacat=6000
08-16-2023 10:53 AM
@wastingtime101 wrote:
Hey devon@ebay
OP followed the correct process and reported listings, but it appears there is larger abuse taking place and members shouldn't have to report a flood of listings.
Is it possible on your end to let the correct department know that software listings are populating in the motors category so they can set up filters or whatever it is they do to monitor when there's broad abuse across a category?
Here are a couple of direct links, filtered to the motors category. These listings even have external eBay websites in the subtitle, and no doubt what they're selling is not permitted by Microsoft or eBay.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=windows+10
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=microsoft+office
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=microsoft&_sacat=6000
Hey @wastingtime101! I will for sure get this reported on my end as well as have the seller's account looked into to have the appropriate action taken.
08-16-2023 10:57 AM
08-21-2023 06:04 AM
Thanks for the answer. But almost a week has passed and nothing has been done.
Here is a new example. Two users advertise the same site. Each user created 48!!! listings with the same title and description. Even duplicates are not blocked. Unable to find the right product among this spam.
First user listings: 386009718533, 386009738182, 386009739571, 386009742192, 386009742471, 386009511639, 386009741240, 386009741489, 386009742988, 386009743258, 386009744535, 386009564678, 386009566970, 386009568844, 386009572536, 386009549261, 386009561138, 386009546727, 386009555360, 386009556800, 386009559066, 386009634056, 386009662456, 386009663962, 386009665719, 386009576887, 386009582712, 386009584973, 386009593024, 386009598718, 386009601470, 386009602620, 386009603032, 386009604987, 386009579602, 386009588617, 386009603243, 386009603885, 386009604747, 386009606873, 386009608562, 386009609398, 386009609652, 386009609822, 386009607457, 386009608150, 386009677470, 386009679782
Second user listings: 386009608562, 386009609398, 386009609652, 386009609822, 386009634056, 386009662456, 386009663962, 386009665719, 386009566970, 386009568844, 386009572536, 386009576887, 386009582712, 386009584973, 386009588617, 386009593024, 386009598718, 386009601470, 386009602620, 386009603032, 386009604987, 386009606873, 386009607457, 386009608150, 386009742192, 386009718533, 386009738182, 386009739571, 386009741240, 386009741489, 386009742988, 386009743258, 386009744535, 386009742471, 386009564678, 386009579602, 386009603243, 386009603885, 386009604747, 386009677470, 386009679782, 386009549261, 386009511639, 386009546727, 386009555360, 386009556800, 386009559066, 386009561138
09-04-2023 04:32 PM
devon@ebay it's also very concerning that many of these listings appear to be using the eBay Charity program and Promoted Listings ads (likely Advanced Cost Per Click based on the placement).
PL Advanced policy page says it is available to "Above Standard or Top Rated sellers with enough account activity."
https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/growth/promoted-listings/promoted-listings-advanced
Not sure what "enough account activity" is but I have a difficult time understanding how a zero feedback account created 3 days ago should qualify.
I understand that eBay is very focused on increasing ad revenue but perhaps site safety and security should be more important and some common sense restrictions or limitations should be placed on the use of these ads?
09-05-2023 07:12 AM
@valueaddedresource wrote:
devon@ebay it's also very concerning that many of these listings appear to be using the eBay Charity program and Promoted Listings ads (likely Advanced Cost Per Click based on the placement).
PL Advanced policy page says it is available to "Above Standard or Top Rated sellers with enough account activity."
https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/growth/promoted-listings/promoted-listings-advanced
Not sure what "enough account activity" is but I have a difficult time understanding how a zero feedback account created 3 days ago should qualify.
I understand that eBay is very focused on increasing ad revenue but perhaps site safety and security should be more important and some common sense restrictions or limitations should be placed on the use of these ads?
Hey @valueaddedresource! Thank you for sharing this with me. I will be sure to have these listings/account sent over for review!
09-05-2023 09:07 AM
devon@ebay wrote:
@valueaddedresource wrote:devon@ebay it's also very concerning that many of these listings appear to be using the eBay Charity program and Promoted Listings ads (likely Advanced Cost Per Click based on the placement).
PL Advanced policy page says it is available to "Above Standard or Top Rated sellers with enough account activity."
https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/growth/promoted-listings/promoted-listings-advanced
Not sure what "enough account activity" is but I have a difficult time understanding how a zero feedback account created 3 days ago should qualify.
I understand that eBay is very focused on increasing ad revenue but perhaps site safety and security should be more important and some common sense restrictions or limitations should be placed on the use of these ads?
Hey @valueaddedresource! Thank you for sharing this with me. I will be sure to have these listings/account sent over for review!
devon@ebay thanks I appreciate that, but like @wastingtime101 , I believe this is a systemic problem that needs a systemic solution.
Simply reporting individual listings or accounts for review is not enough, eBay needs to more proactively block and/or automatically remove these listings as well as review qualification guidelines for Promoted Listings to make sure that scammers are not able to use PL ads (especially Advanced Cost Per Click) to drive more traffic to their clearly fraudulent and policy violating listings.
09-10-2023 01:28 AM
Thanks to everyone who cares about this topic. But the problem is gaining momentum. The number of listings with advertising already exceeds the number of useful listings. Of the 238 search results, more than 130 are advertising, and less than 50 are useful on this topic. These users continue to use paid promotion for their advertising listings. The biggest problem is that there are buyers who buy products from these listings, but end up waiting for the product, receiving nothing and then wasting their time on refunds.
09-10-2023 05:05 AM
Hey devon@ebay some of these even have the eBay Certified Refurbished badge.
https://www.ebay.com/sellercenter/ebay-for-business/ebay-refurbished-program
In order to sell under the eBay Refurbished program conditions (Certified, Excellent, Very Good, Good), your account must meet specific standards including but not limited to:
Account status: eBay Top Rated Seller
Positive feedback: At last 98%
Item not as described rate: Less than 4%
Items not received rate: Less than 1%
Additionally, you must be in good standing with eBay. For the Certified Refurbished condition you will need to submit a purchase order or letter of authorization from your manufacturer partners.
Quality: Items must be fully functional, tested and refurbished to a high standard. Once accepted in the program, items will be graded according to criteria by eBay.
Apply now
If you are a current eBay seller with a Business account and believe your inventory qualifies, you can submit a streamlined Program Application to be vetted.
If you are a new eBay seller with a Business account and believe your inventory qualifies, you can submit a Program Application for review and a team member will respond within 30 days.
Are we supposed to seriously believe that a clearly fraudulent zero feedback accounts created 5 days ago have successfully completed the Certified Refurbished vetting process? And if so....what does that say about the entire Certified Refurbished program?
09-10-2023 03:54 PM
That first one doesn't even have text in the title. It's all emojis and symbols.
The scammers tested the waters; now they're going in full force.
09-10-2023 04:08 PM
Top 16 best match results in motors category for the word office are these fraudulent software listings. One's a penny auction.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=office
Currently only 1 on first page of best match for microsoft.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=microsoft
20 out of top 60 best match for software with photoshop and coreldraw now in the mix.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=software
eBay's taken down hundreds, but more keep popping up. Can't believe they're getting past certified refurbished blocks.
09-10-2023 05:26 PM
@wastingtime101 wrote:Top 16 best match results in motors category for the word office are these fraudulent software listings. One's a penny auction.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=office
Currently only 1 on first page of best match for microsoft.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=microsoft
20 out of top 60 best match for software with photoshop and coreldraw now in the mix.
https://www.ebay.com/sch/6000/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=software
eBay's taken down hundreds, but more keep popping up. Can't believe they're getting past certified refurbished blocks.
@wastingtime101 I agree certified refurbished is particularly concerning. The only thing I can surmise is it means there really are no certified refurbished blocks or the vetting process is somehow extremely easy to trick....neither one of which reflects very well on the program or eBay as a whole.
09-10-2023 05:33 PM
There are definitely certified refurbished blocks in a lot of the electronics categories @valueaddedresource . Don't know how it's handled with motors categories.
A lot of times these scammers use third party listing software, so I suppose that could be exploiting a loophole in the programming and getting around blocks. No idea. Just spitting out some ideas.
02-19-2024 01:02 PM - edited 02-19-2024 01:03 PM
Hey devon@ebay
It seems eBay has a new vulnerability.
Dozens of newly registered accounts advertising some sites. Each one has hundreds of listings. Listings are active for 10-15 minutes and are closed by the seller. Searching for software again flooded with spam
https://i.postimg.cc/cJd3SKtt/scr1.jpg