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Bug: Can't paste text into message on eBay Community

I came here planning to ask for help about selling, but I found that I couldn't paste text into this box. Is this a bug?

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Bug: Can't paste text into message on eBay Community

@diamond-lion 

 

I came here planning to ask for help about selling, but I found that I couldn't paste text into this box. Is this a bug?

 

Not that I've noticed. I just pasted your text above. Seems to be working for me in Firefox. What browser are you using? 

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Strange. I'm using Firefox. The funny thing is that I CAN right click and choose "paste" and that works. I just can't use Ctrl+V. This makes no sense!?

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@diamond-lion 

 

The funny thing is that I CAN right click and choose "paste" and that works. I just can't use Ctrl+V. This makes no sense!?

 

That is odd. Ctrl+C Ctrl+V works for me. Does the behavior persist after signing out and signing back in to the community boards, or after a restart of Firefox, or a reboot? It might be a random glitch. If it persists, it might be due to a conflict with one of your extensions or plug-ins.

 

There was recently a problem with eBay message text fields not displaying any input text that turned out to be an issue with a common Grammarly browser plug-in.

 

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Not sure what might be going on here, but there have been pasting weirdnesses for me in the past.

 

Have you tried CTRL-INS instead of CTRL-V?

 

 

Another remote possibility:
I only use at best FF52 as a newest version and typically use FF31, but eBay had (has?) some issues with FF31 and paste functionality with seller notes (which I use when relisting or creating listings).

 

There is a browser setting that wasn't in FF3.6.24 but is in FF31 and caused me trouble.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Preferences/Preference_reference/dom.event.clipboar...

dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled lets websites get notifications if the user copies, pastes,
or cuts something from a web page, and it lets them know which part of the page had been selected.
The emitting of the oncopy, oncut and onpaste events are controlled by this preference.


If you are comfortable doing so you could play with the FF internal setting for dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled


A shortcut to it: about:config?filter=dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled

 

That just opens the FF about:config GUI interface to the internal settings, which allows you to toggle the setting and see if that is the issue.

 

Type or copy/paste that shortcut in the address bar in a new tab, and it will open the settings dialog filtered down to that single setting about:config?filter=clipboardevents.

 

If that setting isn't present in your presumably newer/newest Firefox version then disregard what follows.

 

If present, it should be defaulted to TRUE. If you double click on it, it will toggle to false, and the setting text will then be bolded. Leave that tab alone and go try a text paste in a message here and see if that changes anything.

 

When done playing with it, switch back to the settings tab, double click the setting to toggle it back to TRUE, and close the settings tab.

 

In the unlikely event that that is the issue, how do you fix it? You really don't.

 

It's something Lithium should address, but you could use the kludge method I used when the seller note thing was broken. Bookmark that setting shortcut, put it somewhere accessible (bookmarks toolbar or menu), and use it as needed when you need to paste text in a forum message. You use the bookmark to open the setting in a tab, toggle the setting, do your pasting business, and when done, toggle the setting back, and close the setting tab. Klunky but it works. (there is no way to automate the process, and even browser addons/extensions might now have trouble changing settings in new browsers because browser security restrictions. Browser may only allow manual changes - not programmatic)

 

Probably isn't the issue, but if you have the time and inclination you could try it.

 

See next message for addendum - ran out of edit time.

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After I posted the previous post I did a quick test (yeah, should have tested beforehand :-), and it turns out if I toggle that setting to FALSE, CTRL-V pasting in forum messages here fails. (but only in the default full message editor - the quick edit mode works fine either way).

 

So maybe the setting is present in your Firefox browser, but somehow got toggled to FALSE (or is the new default?), and need to be toggled to TRUE.

 

If so, you could probably just leave it set to true (where it should be anyway?). I have no issues elsewhere on eBay or any other website with it in its default enabled (true) state, and only had to toggle it to false for that one eBay activity.

 

Might be worthwhile to take a look at for your issue.

 

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@berserkerplanet wrote:

if I toggle [dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled] to FALSE, CTRL-V pasting in forum messages here fails.

 

So maybe the setting is present in your Firefox browser, but somehow got toggled to FALSE (or is the new default?), and need to be toggled to TRUE.

 


Thanks for your reply. Yes, I do have that setting set to false, because I don't want websites to be able to interact with my clipboard.

 

In the past I discovered to my horror that a website was able to read and change the contents of my clipboard. I consider that a huge violation of my privacy. The clipboard is shared across the entire computer and often contains very personal information  (passwords, diary entries, etc) so as far as I'm concerned, there's no way that websites should ever be allowed to gain access to it. I can think of no legitimate reason why any website would ever need to do so.

 

As someone who takes my privacy very seriously, I will be leaving the setting set to false, and will just have to keep this bug in mind, and use the context menu to pate instead.

 

Thanks.

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Looks like that might be the answer to your issue.

Just for the record, and for anyone else who comes along later and reads this thread:
Did you actually try toggling the [dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled] setting to TRUE to prove that it is what is preventing your pasting with the mouse in the editor in these forums? (really sounds like it is, but a quick test would clinch it)


This Firefox addon (only for FF57 and up) appears to be able to control the setting via the toolbar: https://add0n.com/privacy-settings.html but only for the older XUL versions of the addon (for pre-quantum FF versions)


From my understanding, websites can only monitor, record, or modify what is copied and pasted, or prevent right-click copying "ON THEIR OWN SITES" through scripting when that setting is enabled (it is a clipboard activity notification controlling setting).
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Preferences/Preference_reference/dom.event.clipboar...
https://www.ghacks.net/2014/01/08/block-websites-reading-modifying-clipboard-contents-firefox/


Tin-foil hat as I am, I'm not too worried about a site I am voluntarily performing copying and pasting actions on knowing what I'm copying and pasting.


As far as I've found, a random website can not read clipboard contents directly no matter what, especially in newer browses https://github.com/schomery/privacy-settings/issues/31

In mostly older browsers, I believe there were techniques using Flash and/or other scripts (zeroClipboard.js, clipboard.js, etc) to write to the clipboard, but not aware of anything that could actually read the clipboard directly (although there may have been ways to spoof mouse events to make it appear a user copy event had occurred which might lead to leakage)

A line of defense is to block any clipboard related scripts you come across via Adblock Plus, NoScript, HOSTS file domain blocking (if third party and whole third party domain is your enemy), etc. (mostly after the horse has left the barn approach but useful going forward unless your are blocking all scripts by default and vetting as you go).

Block jQuery.com scripts by default and whitelist as needed (might stop the lazier script kiddies). Also, disable/remove Flash (and Silverlight?) completely (or block with NoScript to shut down those leakage avenues.
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@berserkerplanet wrote:
Just for the record, and for anyone else who comes along later and reads this thread:
Did you actually try toggling the [dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled] setting to TRUE to prove that it is what is preventing your pasting

Hi Berserker and thanks for your very helpful answer.

 

Yes, I can confirm that Ctrl+V works again the very instant I set dom.event.clipboardevents.enabled to true.

 

As for sites only being able to interact with the clipboard when you press keys on the active site. That may be true, but for me it's way too creepy. I was speaking to a friend on Trello, hit Ctrl+V to paste some text, and what happened chilled me. The text I thought I'd copied, apparently hadn't copied, and instead Trello began uploading a DOCUMENT from my computer! (The last document I had copied in Windows.) Needless to say, this document could have been anything, or highly personal. And that experience makes me absolutely determined not to let any website have ANY access to my clipboard under any circumstances.

 

Your other tips are appreciated and I do already use NoScript, Adblock, etc. Thanks! 🙂

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