Managed Payment CONFUSION. No way to avoid "managed payment sellers?"

[tubbe]

Appears that eBay has ONE WAY for selling for those of us who aren't eBay store subscribers.

Under the "Fees & Financials" section of the website, there is a hyperlink which states that

eBay will manage payments for all sellers in 2021

Likewise, in the list of "What You Need To Know" below that, the statement:

"eBay will require all sellers to register for eBay to manage their payments in 2021"

However, on the Spring 2021 Fee Update page, there is a link to:

Fees for sellers without payments managed by eBay and

If you don’t have a Store subscription and eBay doesn’t manage your payments

under "Selling Fees" there is this statement:

eBay now manages payments. If eBay sends your sales proceeds directly to your bank account, and you see Available funds in your payments summary - opens in new window or tab, then your account is already activated for managed payments and the fees on this page are no longer relevant to you. Please refer to our Selling fees for managed payments sellers article for the fees that apply to your account. 

Am I missing something? 

I guess it's "my way or the highway," eh?

[pjcdn2005]

Maybe I’m just missing your point but there are both store subscribers and non store sellers using Managed Payments.  I don’t know how eBay decides when they want each seller to register but it doesn’t seem related to whether or not a seller has a store.

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/fees-credits-invoices/selling-fees-managed-payments-sellers?id=482...

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/fees-credits-invoices/store-selling-fees-managed-payments-sellers?...

[slippinjimmy]

eBay announced over two years ago and had repeatedly notified sellers that Managed Payments was coming and coming for all sellers. Even the end date of "end of 2021" has been promoted since last Spring. In the meantime some sellers are and some are not thus the two different fee pages.

FYI - It has nothing to do with Store Subscribers, lots of them are in Managed Payments

[reallynicestamps]

If you don't want to deal with sellers who are in Managed Payments, which is what your title seems to imply, just look to see what kinds of payments they accept.

Managed Payments accept GooglePay and/or ApplePay, which are not processed by Paypal.

You might want to ask on the etsy Boards about how those sellers like their version of Managed Payments, since that venue has been using Ayden as a payment processor for a few years and those sellers are comfortable with it.

[magic*moonbeams]

I know of a person who recently sold an item and got their payment through PayPal...they don't "actively" sell... it was a fixed priced item that was out there for the longest time and the only thing they had out there...  

I am curious

If the deal with PayPal is off... then it should be completely OFF...

Why are a select few still getting payments through PayPal and the rest of us suckers are now using MP???

Like, what is good for one should be good for all...

I just don't get it.. Maybe I'm missing something...but I'm thinking more likely I am not missing anything and it's more likely that it's just more messed up eBay "logic" that allows some but not all....

[chapeau-noir]

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@magic*moonbeams wrote:

I know of a person who recently sold an item and got their payment through PayPal...they don't "actively" sell... it was a fixed priced item that was out there for the longest time and the only thing they had out there...  

I am curious

If the deal with PayPal is off... then it should be completely OFF...

Why are a select few still getting payments through PayPal and the rest of us suckers are now using MP???

Like, what is good for one should be good for all...

I just don't get it.. Maybe I'm missing something...but I'm thinking more likely I am not missing anything and it's more likely that it's just more messed up eBay "logic" that allows some but not all....

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Yes, you are missing something.  Managed payments is still being rolled out to sellers - it's not an instant snap of the fingers and all of a sudden we're all moved over.  Tranches of sellers are being brought into the scheme in a rolling time frame.  Paypal is still an accepted payment for BUYERS, who won't really know if a seller is in MP or not, save that the seller has more ways to accept payments, rather than only Paypal which many people do not use.

[kristiancapronbaron]

"My way or the highway" it is- PayPal was great, this "managed payouts" sucks.  Ebay is going the way of Amazon.

[releasethekraken_1]

Which website doesn't have a "my way or the highway" policy for fees?

And why would anyone want to avoid MP sellers?

Maybe you could express your point more clearly.

[luckythewinner]

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@tubbe wrote:

Am I missing something? 

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Yes, you are missing something. You seem to be under the misconception that having a store subscription affects whether you must use managed payments. It does not. 

eBay is planning to transition all sellers to managed payments by the end of 2021. That includes both store sellers and non-store sellers. 

But until the transition is complete at thge end of 2021, there will be some sellers who using four different fees structures on eBay: 

(a) store sellers who are now in managed payments

(b) non-store sellers who are now in managed payments

(c) store sellers who are not yet in managed payments

(d) non-store sellers who are not yet in managed payments

Just because (c) and (d) will be obsolete in the future will not stop eBay from raising the fees for (c) and (d) in the 2021 seller updates 🙂

[tubbe]

thank you for taking the time to reply.

My topic (issue)  is about continuing as a Seller.

I shouldn't have said anything about eBay Stores, as that seems to have confused all responders. 

My point is this:

they don't allow eBay sellers to "opt out" of being in the "managed payments" classification, yet there is still that schedule of fees labelled " Fees for sellers without payments managed by eBay"

I don't like that eBay hypes how great the new "experience" is, just because they have

consolidated all selling processes to themselves (eliminated Paypal, etc) and then

insist that it will save on fees, etc.  Not even true for some transactions.

Closer to the truth is that we're just paying those banking/processing fees to eBay instead.

any thoughts?

[tubbe]

yes, that's correct.  that didn't escape my comprehension.

however, I don't like that eBay never specified "what will happen" to a seller account, if one

doesn't "register" as a managed payments seller and still posts a "schedule of fees" called

Fees for sellers without payments managed by eBay.

that's the source of confusion/annoyance

that, and being told how great the new "experience" is

[tubbe]

sorry, but that's not my point.  I seem to have done a poor job with my first post.

I don't like that eBay never specified "what will happen" to a seller account, if one

doesn't "register" as a managed payments seller and still posts a "schedule of fees" called

Fees for sellers without payments managed by eBay.

this is the source of my confusion/annoyance

AND being told how great the new "experience" is

[reallynicestamps]

The Managed Payments service requires the user/seller to have a checking account attached.

Many sellers have only a savings account, or only a credit card attached to their Paypal account.

Until the seller attaches a checking account, MP cannot be implemented for that seller.

It also seems that those being moved to MP are active sellers, and usually ones with several dozens if not thousands of current listings.

A seller with half a dozen items that have neither sold nor been replaced for yonks is not being pushed into MP.

[pjcdn2005]

From my understanding, they have made it fairly clear that if you don't switch by the date you were asked to switch you won't be able to revise current listings or add any new listings. I'm sure that eventually they will delete those listings that are still up and not using MP  but I do think that they will give a warning first.

Any changes ebay makes seems to get described as being easier/better/ greater etc etc and I agree it is annoying as heck simply because most often changes are for their benefit, not ours.  In some cases the changes they make don't seem to benefit anyone.

[releasethekraken_1]

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@tubbe wrote:

thank you for taking the time to reply.

My topic (issue)  is about continuing as a Seller.

I shouldn't have said anything about eBay Stores, as that seems to have confused all responders. 

My point is this:

they don't allow eBay sellers to "opt out" of being in the "managed payments" classification, yet there is still that schedule of fees labelled " Fees for sellers without payments managed by eBay"?

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No, they don't allow sellers to opt out once they're "invited", but what you seem to be unaware of is that there are probably millions of eBay sellers who haven't yet been told to sign up for MP. Those sellers' payments are still routed through PayPal. Obviously, those sellers are paying "fees for sellers without payments managed by eBay".