Help with id or descriptions of two old/antique brooches

[rosesrosegarden]

I can find no marks on them. The both look to be Victorian era. One with seed pearls and one with a coral? rose. Gold filled or gold plated? Both have C hook clasp. Thank for any help on these!

[mforjan]

Both Victorian. Gold filled but I would have them checked, sometimes that open back construction is gold 

The one with the flower is a watch pin. Beautiful!

[rosesrosegarden]

Oh, Marie. You are always there to help! Thank you!

[southernmermaid8]

Just wanted to comment that it's so interesting that this Victorian brooch has pyramid studs on it . I think of those as very modern . Guess they fall into the everything old is new again category .

Mermaid 🐠 

[cleio]

I was thinking that too lol!  It is a pretty piece,  The rose is probably coral

[hollyblue83]

In the photos ,both look to have been repaired with lead solder. and the "pearl"one seems to be missing a part.

[mforjan]

I have a pair of Victorian earrings with pyramid studs. Got them in a repair lot for basically nothing and had them fixed. They turned out to be 18k 

[arlene_v]

I agree that  the pearl brooch could  be missing a part. Definitely looks like it's had a lead repair  in the front that has come apart.