Help Identifying the maker of this Hermes-looking scarf please?

[fifiscloset4]

I found this scarf along with the other Hermes pieces and assumed that it was Hermes too until I realized that there is absolutely no writing on it- anywhere 😞

Before I donate it, I thought that I would double check that there is no way of identifying it? Any help would be very greatly appreciated!

[fifiscloset4]

I don't know if it shows well in the pictures but it appears to be silk twill. The hem is hand rolled and looks like it was unprofessionally repaired.

[lacemaker3]

I tried doing a google image search.

I wasn't able to find any other examples of this scarf, but I was able to identify the egg in the middle. It's the Third Imperial Fabergé egg. Given by Tsar Alexander III to his wife Tsarina Maria Feodorovna on Easter in 1887.

It was lost for decades, then in 2011 someone recognized it in a picture in a 1965 auction catalog, at which time it had not been recognized for what it was. In 2012, a scrap dealer googled one of his possessions, found the 2011 article, and realized that he had the egg in his kitchen.

You can't make this stuff up. Check out the wikipedia article (link above).

Anyway, it's a pretty scarf and seems to be good quality. It's not a counterfeit or a fake because it doesn't claim to be anything, so why not sell it? The story about the egg it features would make a nice addition to the listing.

I don't know if the rediscovery in 2012 or the exhibition in 2014 puts a no-earlier-than date on the scarf or not. I would guess that the picture in the auction catalog was probably too obscure to have been used as the basis for designing this scarf.

[fifiscloset4]

Wow! Thank you so much! It was so kind of you to research it for me. I would not have known where to start. That is really fascinating. I didn't want to list it because I figured that it would get lost in a sea of unbranded silk scarves and just sit in my store forever. The information that you provided will make a huge difference. 

I really appreciate your help!

[simplysweetsara]

I'm just interested....if you list it unbranded, however, it may be a quality piece....what do you say in your title to draw attention?

[jsales0]

I don’t know how your going to list it that it doesn’t get lost in a sea of designer inspired scarves. You can try with “Designer Inspired Silk Twill (if it is ) Imperial Egg Motif Scarf” I think that’s OK but for sure you can’t say Fabrege or other associated historic names. See what keywords others throw out. You can always donate it later. It’s very pretty but since it’s so obviously Hermes inspired and unsigned, I honestly don’t think it’s a “name”. 

[genemaat]

Actually, the egg depicted in the center of this scarf (& the un-captioned image misleadingly featured on the Christie's page article about the 3rd Imperial) is "The Twelve Monogram Egg" (aka Alexander III Portraits Egg) 1896 — not the "Third Imperial", 1887 rediscovered in 2013.

Ref https://www.tatler.com/gallery/jaw-dropping-faberge-eggs

THE TWELVE MONOGRAM EGG, 1896The THIRD IMPERIAL Fabergé Egg, 1887

[fifiscloset4]

Probably what ever Jsales tells me to. Lol. Jsales is an absolute genius at titles.

[fifiscloset4]

That is great. Thank you! I did not know that I could not use "fabrege" as I assumed that it was just a name for that kind of egg. I appreciate your help!

[fifiscloset4]

Thank you so much for the information!

[jsales0]

@genemaat 

OMG I VANT one...so incredibly gorgeous. I almost bought a definitely, no question Faberge antique buckle in the early 80s.

It was very expensive but a fraction of what it would be today but I knew I’d chip it if I wore it so I passed. I still think about it. It was the most beautiful thing.

@fifiscloset4 Thanks for the kind words fifi. Just be careful as you don’t want to mess with any potential troll who’s going to nail you for keyword spam over a scarf of questionable value.

IMO the scarf could be a surprise little goodie for you IF you can attract a Faberge related buyer of interest without spamming. I think you’ve got a shot with the egg terms. 

i don’t see why you can’t use any generic egg terms,  but make sure you don’t use any historic capitalized names. For sure you cannot use Faberge legally.

Obviously, ebayers KWS all day, every day and get away with it but I know you don’t want to ever knowingly do it and for sure not on any item that’s been posted on the boards.

Give a listing a shot and list it high with a best offer-not Hermès high but maybe $50/$75 assuming that it is a pure silk twill. See what flies for a bit and you can always pull it and donate it. You could be surprised! It’s very pretty.

[lacemaker3]

@genemaat, thanks for correcting my too-hasty research. I'm glad it really is showing a real, authentic Fabergé egg, or I would really have egg on my face (not Fabergé).

[*vanessa*loredano*]

Maybe issued by a museum in which the eggs are or were on display? I can't find it, but it might help someone think of a way to find this!

it's a lovely scarf, by the way!

warmest regards,

Vanessa

[genemaat · Accepted solution]

I found the other Fabergé egg & the Russian vase depicted in this scarf design: the Catherine the Great Easter Egg (1914) and the gilded Russian porcelain vases with pigeons made during the reign of Nicholas I (1825–1855).

All are in the collection at Hillwood Estate, Museum & Gardens in Washington DC.

CATHERINE THE GREAT (1914)

Source: https://www.hillwoodmuseum.org/collection/item/11.81.1-2

And:

"Visitors to Hillwood Museum and Gardens in Washington, D.C., can view Marjorie Merriweather Post’s superb collection of Russian porcelain, paintings and decorative arts. Among the treasures is a pair of magnificent gilded vases decorated with pigeons that were made during the reign of Nicholas I (1825-1855). Courtesy Hillwood Museum & Gardens."
Source: https://www.liveauctioneers.com/news/columns-and-international/ceramics-collector/russian-porcelain-...

The OP could always ask the Hillwood museum if they are aware of a scarf maker using pieces in their Russian collection as a design inspiration (seems unlikely they would have commissioned it without some reference to the museum in the design).

[fifiscloset4]

Thank you. That would make sense because the scarf is very high quality. Will have to do some more research.