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Please help me identify these jade carvings.

Can anyone help me find out what these carvings are, where they are from, and when they were carved? I appreciate any help you can provide. The top one is 3½" x 2½", the bottom one is 4" x 3".4" x 3"4" x 3"

 

2½" x 3½"2½" x 3½"

 

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Looks like hetian jade (nephrite) older Chinese dragon carvings - the bottom one looks like they're fighting or dueling. Top looks like a dragon and phoenix (?). 


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Re: Please help me identify these jade carvings.

Looks like hetian jade (nephrite) older Chinese dragon carvings - the bottom one looks like they're fighting or dueling. Top looks like a dragon and phoenix (?). 


“The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer.” - Henry Kissinger

"Wherever law ends, tyranny begins" -John Locke
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Thank you.

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I would never accept those as having any credible age so in my mind they would be...

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