Why does ebay always protect the worst people?

[imaginevintage4u]

I have been doing business on ebay since inception. My current account goes back to 2002 but I had one before. Anyway, over the years dealing with people on there as seller and buyer I'm just so full of every kind of horror story. My most recent... This guy is a real ebay exemplar. He lists cars with no reserves so he can avoid paying ebays fees. He then gets shill bidders to outbid anyone under his secret reserve. I tried twice to buy a car from him not knowing the kind of douchy guy he was and was outbid. When i saw the same car a third time I waited and put in a last second bid and won. I pay his pretty high $2000 immediate deposit and he starts emailing me cursing me and calling me every name in the book, tells me im stupid if i think I'm ever going to get this car and invites me to go do carnal things to myself. He lies, says to ebay the item is no longer in stock, cancels the order without any authorization from me, has my negative feedback removed, and promptly ebay allows him to relist the car!!! He just said it was "not in stock" so they let him cancel, then they let him relist it??? I reported him and all his sham auctions. He has duplicates, contacts every buyer to do transactions outside ebay, shill bids, and I wish I could post the heinous way he treated me, the supposed customer, but ebay would remove the post for profanity, and ebay does nothing. After it all, after I called them and spoke with their "response department" or whatever, he's still there. they read the emails, he explicitly admitted he was screwing me and laughed about it. Laughed about how I couldn't do anything to him and ebay can suck it too he does what he wants. They read it all, yet he's Not banned, not his auctions closed, not even the item he sold then refused to ship stopped from being relisted. I mean just wow. As a seller I'm always amazed how much ebay puts on sellers to be the responsible party in a transaction. they basically put all the cost and burden on us and coddle the buyers to a ridiculous extent requiring basically no personal responsibility on the part of buyers. This has been my 1 lasting experience on eBay but this is the first time I've seen the reverse. I'm the buyer, I bid on and won my item. ebay has a special carve-out in the rules specially for sellers of realestate and vehicles that basically says, even if you bid and win, you didn't really win because unlike with other items, there is no binding contract being made when you win and pay for your auction. The seller can still say no and you have no recourse. However them allowing such egredious behaviour  from their seller is another matter. Why they would let him represent them this way is unbelieveable. they have the evidence in black & white. He admits screwing the customers. He admits dodging ebay fees. Ebay can see his shill bidders. Yet they let him go on and on. Why?

[7606dennis]

You know what many people are liking these days?  Paragraphs.

[emerald_door]

I don't think I would trust the description of the vehicle to be accurate, so you may be lucky in the long run. That doesn't excuse his behavior or the way he communicated with you.

[mudshark61369]

@imaginevintage4u,

You may have been buying and selling on ebay for a long time, but you don't seem to have done much due dilligence when bidding on a very high end item. The seller's feedback profile shows they haven't completed a sale in over a year, and most of those items were medium high priced personal electronics, with one auto sale.

Almost all of the vehicles they currently have listed have "sold" before, but the sales haven't gone through.  In looking at the photos of those vehicles, most have New Jersey plates on them, but the location is Miami Fl.  Many of the photos were taken in strip or shopping mall parking lots or parking garages, some photos were obviously taken someplace other than south Florida. 

I can't figure out what this guy's game is, unless it is to collect nonrefundable deposits, but I wouldn't have bid on any of his vehicles, without satisfactory answers to many questions first. I also would not use paypal to make a deposit, but would have escrowed it against the final price.

[imaginevintage4u]

There were paragraphs, my friend, but the thing just crammed it all together removing the extra lines I added for breaks when I hit post from my phone. Thanks for your thoughtful response to my issue though. What would the place do without people like yourself making sure they speak up against such pressing issues as paragraphs. SMH 🤦‍♂️ 

[lyan9337]

Motors purchases are non-binding...

[thatsallfolks]

eBay vehicle auctions are non-binding on both buyer and seller. So regardless of the outcome of the auction, he didn't have to sell to you under his "hidden reserve".

Find another seller/car.

[grayirongolf]

I'm pretty sure I seen an episode of American Greed with a guy they call The Pharaoh of Wallstreet.

He went to jail for inside trading. 

[flyerfandan999]

Just some friendly advice:  for someone shopping for a car for daily transportation purposes, NEVER buy a car and pay a nonrefundable deposit for it on eBay that (1) you haven't seen in person yourself AND (2) haven't had inspected by a competent mechanic.

And just look at the auction pix, it's at a local car wash joint in Edison, NJ not Miami, getting sprayed with who knows what to make it shine, and then there are the pix with two pretty much identical looking cars in the middle of the street.....which one are you bidding on?   Slimy and douchy are totally inadequate to describe this guy.  Now you know how used car salesmen got their reputations.

[7606dennis]

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@imaginevintage4u wrote:

There were paragraphs, my friend, but the thing just crammed it all together removing the extra lines I added for breaks when I hit post from my phone. Thanks for your thoughtful response to my issue though. What would the place do without people like yourself making sure they speak up against such pressing issues as paragraphs. SMH 🤦‍♂️ 

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If you put an extra line between paragraphs you wouldn't have that problem.

[lyan9337]

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@grayirongolf wrote:

I'm pretty sure I seen an episode of American Greed with a guy they call The Pharaoh of Wallstreet.

He went to jail for inside trading. 

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That was The Wolf of Wall Street, it was also turned in to a movie starring Leonardo Dicaprio

[thatsallfolks]

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@imaginevintage4u wrote:

There were paragraphs, my friend, but the thing just crammed it all together removing the extra lines I added for breaks when I hit post from my phone. Thanks for your thoughtful response to my issue though. What would the place do without people like yourself making sure they speak up against such pressing issues as paragraphs. SMH 🤦‍♂️ 

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We don't care what your phone did. Lots of people post here using their phones and manage to use paragraphs. The bottom line is that a monolithic block of text is hard to read, and will be ignored by many people who don't want to waste time trying to figure out what you're complaining about. 

If you want to minimize the # of people who read what you post, don't change a thing.

[tina06457]

Cars aren't really his. He takes/gets pictures of assorted cars he thinks people will be interested in. Scam all the way. If he gets his hands on some deposit money he will vanish.

[robot-hands]

Paragraphs

[imaginevintage4u · Accepted solution]

Go away grammar douches. Jeezus! I'll just use my laptop to check in. To everyone else, I didn't loose my money, to be clear, ebay refunded the deposit when he canceled and I have since learned about the special exception for 'Motors'.

 What I'm complaining about is after it all, he's still there. Today he still has exactly the same car he claimed he couldn't sell me in a no reserve auction at this moment. Along with all the other cars. The pic with 2 shows his 2 m6's. Both were up for auction but apparently he sold the regular one. I was bidding on the A.C Shnitzer special edition. The one with the blue & red inserts in the grill. 

My feeling is that ebay doesn't care at all about terrible behaviour as long as money isn't lost by..1 them, 2 buyers, and lastly sellers. And they care progressively less in that order.