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05-09-2013 02:14 PM
Did not see lludwig's last post before I posted my last post.
Is the discrepancy perhaps due to a difference in the 3rd ( I think 3rd?) edition?
05-09-2013 02:15 PM
Personally, I am fond of Pope's efforts. Alas - I do not have the mentality - the cerebral wiring - for rote memorization. 'T'was always my bete noir in school - and alack.
In the "Compilers to the Readers" They speak of certain authors, such as Jane Austen, Henry James, and even P. G. Wodehouse, who do not have as much as even a page. They (the compilers) state: "It would seem that their charm depends on character and atmosphere and that quotability is no real criterion of either popularity or merit in a writer."
Again - personally - I think there is much more to either Austen or James (or many others of worth) beyond "character and atmosphere".
05-09-2013 02:22 PM
ksmrkt, It is probably - almost assuredly - as derived from the third - and from changing tastes. It make much sense that a society that thrives on instantness and currentness and what is new new new and now now now , should appreciate the beauties of an author who is so accessible to the modern mind through the very brevity of his wit and observation.
The fourth or fifth editions may well quote from the "Idiot's Guide Series" .... or even MADCAPS.
05-09-2013 02:26 PM
I'm staggered that Mark Twain didn't make the top ten.
05-09-2013 03:49 PM
Just for the record, the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations is presently in its 7th edition (2009) (ISBN-13: 9780199237173). It has over 20000 quotations. There's also the Oxford Dictionary of American Quotations, now in its 2nd edition (2006) (ISBN-13: 9780195168235), with nearly 6000 quotations. Then you have the Oxford Dictionary of Modern Quotations, in its 3rd edition (2008) (ISBN-13: 9780199208951). And the Oxford Dictionary of Political Quotations, in its 4th edition (2012) (ISBN-13: 9780199572687). And the Oxford Dictionary of Scientific Quotations (2006) (ISBN-13: 9780198614432). And the Oxford Dictionary of Humorous Quotations, in its 4th edition (2012) (ISBN-13: 9780199570034).
Moral: when you find a successful formula, stick with it.
05-28-2013 01:40 PM
You all know that I'm in the UK. It's hardly surprising that there are more quotations from UK writers than US. We've been writing for nearly 1500 years. But the Greeks and Romans and others have been writing even longer. I'm about to pose a question to which I don't know the answer but would like to.
#744 What is the oldest, verifiable, quotable quote?
Archimedes (200 BC) apparently said, 'Eureka'. Is it verifiable? I don't know the answer to the question but look forward to reading your thoughts.
05-28-2013 01:57 PM
#744 What is the oldest, verifiable, quotable quote?
I've just found a delightful Chinese quote - but I have no idea of its date.
"A book tightly shut is but a block of paper."
05-28-2013 06:28 PM
Be a craftsman in speech that thou mayest be strong, for the strength of one is the tongue, and speech is mightier than all fighting.
~ Maxims of Ptahhotep, 3400 B.C.
Unless its 'Let There Be Light' which was apparently 604 years earlier.
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05-28-2013 07:06 PM
I've heard it bruited about that the Demi-urge was heard to mutter "Oops", just after it created the entire cosmos.
05-29-2013 07:51 AM
I'd heard that was "Dammit! Not again!"
Bill Hicks says it was "Oh man, I left pot everywhere!"
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05-29-2013 09:05 AM
#744 What is the oldest, verifiable, quotable quote?
"Meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow meow¹."
¹Damn! I have no thumbs. I must create God, who will create man in His image, so that he can open cans for me." [one picosecond before the Big Bang.²]
²One hour and one picosecond Central Standard Time.
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05-30-2013 03:49 PM
I, too, found that particular maxim of Ptahhotep, (who now appears as though floating on the Nile during one of the plagues - I can spell, durn it!), but it quoted a date of about 2400 BC.
As for the poor dog going, "meowmeowmeo ... " - just one femtosecond later he announced, "This will be weally wuff, vewy wuff!"
08-19-2013 02:21 AM
A bump for a fun and informative thread.
08-19-2013 02:43 AM
Thanks.
Liz
09-12-2013 05:34 AM