Hmm now how has no one noticed...

[cogus70]

Now people we need cut back on the technology as it's making us illiterate and illogical in all means...Now how many have realized that they're are being overcharged severely and wrongfully and how many have no idea as to not comprehending what things say even all jumbled up...Now someone tell me what's the percent fee for a item sold as a toy, collectibles,card game, art, ? Bet everyone's wrong and bet everyone has no idea we have been getting taking by eBay excessively and unethically 

[wooden_flower]

@cogus70 

You can see the fee calculation for each sale - the details are in your payment account.  Click on any payment to see it. https://www.ebay.com/sh/fin

If you are being charged a rate other than what is shown on the fee page, you should report it. I have never seen one in 20 years.

What makes you think you are not being charged the correct rate?

[cogus70]

Well what category does toys fall under? I just had two hour convo with c.s. whom cut me off upon making a proper point...it's all about wording and the greater and less then symbols.  The top seems to actually mean to state trading cars or collectibles car like antiques as they properly group together as the other categories do its not tvs and shows, or watches and sweaters. Then biggest thing is they try lead ya believe it's only meant to state nft yet the main category is toys and collectibles is 5% which includes , collectible cards, and ccg nft.  Now the greater sign means more important which is >, upon that the main category be toys and hobbies, down to the lower subcategory of collectibles cards, and ccg nft. These categories are based upon the percent due to the lower value of items compared to a 300$ part, or 4000$ vehicle, 1200$ windshield ect which a higher percent is logical as of the larger sums valued per products.  But if was just ccg nfts.. elementary school...you'd use toys and hobbies<collectible cards<ccg nfts. Now that suggests it's only NFTs as the main or greater category is Nfts instead of dropping down to a sub category it remains a main category but signs reversed mean greater to subcategory exp. 1 a,b,c 2 a, 3ab. The number be the significant standing point and the letters be the subcategory. But to add it states *non sports trading cards so in that first category couldn't go from a nft to non nft to a nft. Then it clears says toys and hobbies as well which upon first says most categories ,trading cards but does not clearly specify what cards, does not state toys in it.  But if it is to the point of being that mixed worded then it wouldn't be a legit terms or fee % 

fundamental principle in contract law is that all terms and agreements within a contract should be clearly understandable by all parties involved, meaning the language used should be plain, concise, and avoid ambiguity to prevent disputes or misinterpretations when enforcing the contract

[wooden_flower]

@cogus70 

Sorry, your paragraph is too long for me to follow.

Are you saying the difference between NFT and non-NFT cards is not clear or not fair? The chart seems clear to me - trading cards are in the most categories and specifically named - 

Most categories, including Trading Cards, Collectible Card Games, and eBay Motors > Parts & Accessories, Automotive Tools & Supplies, and Safety & Security Accessories. For vehicles, see our Motors fees.

NFTs are listed in group, again specifically - 

Art > Art NFTs Select Collectibles categories: Emerging NFTs Non-Sport Trading Cards > Non-Sport Trading Card NFTs Movies & TV > Movie NFTs Music > Music NFTs Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Sports Trading Cards > Sport Trading Card NFTs Toys & Hobbies > Collectible Card Games > CCG NFTs

Any category not specifically listed would be in the 'most categories' at

• 13.25% on total amount of the sale up to $7,500 calculated per item
• 2.35% on the portion of the sale over $7,500

Were you charged more than that? Or were you expecting the 5% NFT rate? 

Or are you suggesting that they should add an explanation that each '>' is drilling down in the category to a specific subcategory?

[golfingaddict]

You are not understanding how eBay defines categories..

All categories that contain actual listings are called Leaf categories. As an example, Collectibles is a Level 2 (L2) category, while Presidential is a Level 4 (L4) Leaf category within the Collectibles & Art hierarchy. Although the full path within the hierarchical structure is Collectibles & Art > Collectibles > Autographs > Political > Presidential, this leaf category is displayed on eBay.com as Collectible Presidential Autographs.

In the case of your NFT.  The Hierarchy is Toys and Hobbies,

Toys & Hobbies > Collectible Card Games > CCG NFTs  which are 5%

Or 

Sports Mem, Cards & Fan Shop > Sports Trading Cards > Sport Trading Card NFTs

Toys are in all other categories

• 13.25% on total amount of the sale up to $7,500 calculated per item
• 2.35% on the portion of the sale over $7,500

[golfingaddict]

The < > are not looked at as greater than, less than, they are more like a bread crumb trail to drill down the category.   The category does not start with the specific leaf (level 4) and work backwards.

[cogus70]

Saying it's not clear or fair but eBay isn't fair to start, tbh not sure why anyone try justify anything for them... But if they want it to mean what you say should be more clear and more categories added in school I was taught > means greater and means lower. So in that terms the first category be the greatest and higher priority. Then the way broke down to say non sports cards,>non sports cards nfts is made sound as if A1.is non sports cards and then A2.be non sports nfts..cause when they say all trading cards nfts are also trading cards correct. Like cards are trading cards not really collectibles or toys. Then to add if went down to last category it's be saying only parts and stuff were in the category as the other topics are are before the greater then symbols. I mean that's what theyre not parentheses, commas, or indents. But statue says:

fundamental principle in contract law is that all terms and agreements within a contract should be clearly understandable by all parties involved, meaning the language used should be plain, concise, and avoid ambiguity to prevent disputes or misinterpretations when enforcing the contract.   

Upon the conversation doesn't sound to clear to me as well as them charging selling fees on shipping and tax, then the .30-.40 final final fee is then charges with all cost included not just your proceeds. So if you sell $5 item, ya have the 13.25% few, as well anything over $10 the .40 under .30 but again if you make 5$ and ship 4.55 and taxes $1 they still charge you .40 on over ten dollar rate it instead .30 for $5 . then they also charge you the selling fee with taxes and shipping added on so you get charged selling fee on taxes plus taxes taken out...

[wooden_flower]

@cogus70 

I’m not sure where you went looking for the info.

“We charge one final value fee when your item sells, and you don't have to worry about third-party payment processing fees. This fee is calculated as a percentage of the total amount of the sale, plus a per order fee. For orders $10.00 or less the per order fee is $0.30, for orders over $10.00 the per order fee is $0.40.

The total amount of the sale includes the item price, any handling charges, any shipping costs collected from the buyer (some exceptions apply), sales tax, and any other applicable fees.”

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/fees-credits-invoices/selling-fees?id=4822&st=3&pos=1&query=Sellin...

I’m sorry we’re not sympathetic to your observations, but this is shown when you go to submit a listing:

A final value fee- opens in new window or tab applies when your item sells.

By selecting List it, you agree to pay the above fees, accept the eBay User Agreement- opens in new window or tab, Payments Terms of Use- opens in new window or tab and Marketing Program Terms- opens in new window or tab; acknowledge reading the User Privacy Notice- opens in new window or tab, agree to offer products and services that comply with all applicable laws, and assume full responsibility for the item offered and the content of your listing.

[cogus70]

If not sympathetic to the issue why's you change you're categories after speaking?

[cogus70]

Also you do have worry about 3rd party selling fee as it cost $2 more dollars to get wick pay and that .30-.40 fee, then what about excessive taxing which is only claimed if a seller hits $5000 other wise that money goes to whom...where? But after last contact it just happens the listing cost changed to a single category however convenient for eBay. It's like the choice of you pay shipping or buyer it's still same dang amount yet it's still added on to be feed on as well as taxes which is taxing the IRS proceeds. Or how about excessive taxing like 7.00$ on $80 is 5.60$ not $7.02...or the fact I choose $1.25 shipping and am made to pick $4.12 instead as the option I chose is not listed? It's all about pennies and interest like how funds be processing yet eBay still deducts theirs off the top as well as other shipping labels for items sold after a item..we sell it, do the communication, pay for labels to be made, have box packages to ship, have to drive to ship, have deal with post office, things that are behind or not arriving like said? I had refund someone $1 then eBay went and tacked another $.09 said they chipped in then took out my sales!!!!

[house*of*paws]

Hi @cogus70 

You may want to post your complaint on the Selling Board if you want more of a Discussion if the topic.

The Ask a Mentor Board is mainly to have specific questions answered.  You’re not likely to get multiple people responding to a topic.

[cogus70]

Tbh not even sure how do that didn't know was diff sections or...