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Bids and offers did not work.

jager_1967
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I refreshed the page all the way until the last second and it said that I won the whole time but as soon as it ended it said someone put in a bid like 3 minutes ago. I don't understand why it didn't say I was outbidded in 3 minutes. Seems a lot unfair to me

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Bids and offers did not work.

You are mistaken.  The winning bid was placed 2 SECONDS before the end, not 2 minutes.  I'm guessing you are relying on the bid history on a mobile app.  Don't do that.  They are worse than useless.

 

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Bids and offers did not work.

@jager_1967 

It did not say you won since the auction was not over yet. It probably said you were the highest bidder.

Ebay allows bids to be placed at any time during the auction, from 1st second to last second. You lost because someone bid more than you, not just because they bid later than you.

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Bids and offers did not work.

The countdown you see is not a real-time feed of bids coming into eBay's servers and the eBay clock counting down. Rather, it is a script that runs on your computer and calls for updates on the auction status about every 3 seconds. It uses the time remaining from those updates to start your own computer's clock counting down from the time the page loads or the last successful update, and displays the "current price" and your status as of the last successful update.

Meanwhile, on eBay's end, a bid coming in is timestamped before eBay does anything else with it. If it gets the timestamp before the end of the last second of the auction, it is a timely bid. Then the bid must be processed to see that it is a valid bid for that item (meets the currently calculated minimum bid amount, not subject to a seller block or over the Buyer Activity Limit or from an account with a bidding suspension, timestamped before the end of the auction) before it is handed over to the server that is calculating the status of the auction. This is usually all done in a fraction of a second, but sometimes can take a couple of seconds. Only after the status server calculates the new "current bid" and leader is that information available to be sent in response to an update request from your computer (and it takes some fraction of a second for your request to get to eBay's servers and another for it to get back, get loaded into RAM, and get displayed on your screen, and the script runs the clock down from when the new "time remaining" loads in RAM, which usually results in your countdown being slow because of the time lag).

So, between the 3 second (at best, not all updates are succesful) gaps and the time to process a new bid, there is always at least a 1-4 second window at the end where the results of a new bid will NOT display on your countdown screen before YOUR clock reaches 0 and the script calls for a full refresh of the Item Page. At that time the results of the late bid usually come up (you are not seeing the actual bid, you are seeing the calculated "winning price" or "current bid"), but I always (and everyone should) give it a few seconds and then manually refresh just to be sure before relying on the result as final (again, on a busy night it might take a few seconds to finish processing a bid).

If you bid your TRUE maximum, it doesn't make any difference whether you saw the bid before your countdown ran out--if you had been able to react to it before the auction ended you wouldn't have reacted anyway, since you would not let yourself bid more than the MOST you would be willing to pay. If you did not bid your TRUE maximum and were unable to react, now you know why it is important to bid your true maximum REGARDLESS of what anyone else appears or doesn't appear to be bidding. Highest bid received (but not cancelled/retracted) before the auction ends win, but the price is set by the high bid of the SECOND highest bidder (again, as of what is received but not cancelled/retracted before the end).

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Bids and offers did not work.

As I mentioned in the first posting they did not make a last-second bid it said that they've bidded  three minutes and some seconds before the end of the auction on the bid history. But yet on the site it continue to say that I was winning the auction. So your analogy would not make sense of what happened. But thank you for your input.

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I started watching 14 minutes before the end of the auction and kept refreshing almost on a constant basis. So eBay had at least three minutes to update. I think it's completely and totally unacceptable that they can run an auction without updating it in that amount of time. It is unfair for anyone who is bidding on the items. I think that I will stop birding on any items on Ebay. At least until they update their bidding site there is much better bidding sites out there. But thank you for all the input that you have put in. It was very helpful

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@jager_1967 

 

< someone put in a bid like 3 minutes ago >     

 

Would you provide the listing item number, so I/we can take a look at the bidding history?  

 

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Bids and offers did not work.

SPOONTIQUES EXQUISITE RUSS BERRIE & CO HUDSON COSTUME PEWTER LOT #bw389

This was an auction held by jewelry Giant which is no fault of theirs.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/203651460077?mkevt=1&mkpid=0&emsid=e11000.m43.l2649&mkcid=7&ch=osgood&euid=...

There is an actual link to the item itself I hope that makes it easier for you.

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Bids and offers did not work.

You are mistaken.  The winning bid was placed 2 SECONDS before the end, not 2 minutes.  I'm guessing you are relying on the bid history on a mobile app.  Don't do that.  They are worse than useless.

 

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@jager_1967 

 

The Bid History shows that the auction ended at 5:16:22   

and the member with (1330) bid was recorded at 5:16:20  

 

In other words, the bidder with (1330) got her/his bid in 2 seconds before the end. 

A two second snipe is a darn good snipe. 

 

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