What are we doing with 'un-done' DARES?

[cheries_art]

Just curious...are we just forgetting about them? Are we able to re-submit them? Can we complete them ourselves? What do you think? Thanks, Cherie

[artistjillian]

I haven't had time to come in here to read, and won't have time until probably Saturday evening. I wanted you all to say what you had to say, and then I would put forward a proposal. I definitely don't want the dare 'recyle' to become an excuse for people not to do their dares if it scares them. And don't want to recycle them if they just didn't realise they had been assigned one. I'll let you post some more, and assess this on the weekend. Thanks all. Sorry but just swamped at the moment. ~Jillian

[ellenillustrates]

I've posted lots of dares and have accepted a few. I only bid on the dares that I like, whether I was the darer or someone else was. I don't really feel obligated to bid just because I made the dare. I think if that's the case, then we might end up with an even harder time getting enough dares for a set. I do try to dare something that I think will actually sell, or at least have an audience, or I make the dare open enough so the artist can interpret to reach whatever audience. Anyone want to volunteer the task of sorting out which dares have not been completed? I think that needs to be posted in a separate thread to catch everyone's eye. Like Jillian pointed out, some dares may not be completed because the daree didn't realize they were in that set.

[julee_bug]

Since I probably have the most time on my hands, I'm willing to go through the dares & sort out which are undone. I'll post them in a thread titled "UNDONE DARES" I'll post the dare with the ID of the original dare taker assigned to it. If that's okay with everyone. julee

[julee_bug]

Shellrose- My personal opinion was that starting bids should be kept under $5. Thats enough to cover fees and still put a dollar or two in your pocket. The dares were meant to be challenging and fun, not real moneymakers. Just an opinion, of course. Ellen, As a dare giver, I usually do bid on my dares but thats because I have asked for some pretty off the wall stuff. I didn't feel the Darer is always obligated to bid but feel they should if they've made a dare for something totally outlandish with no real audience to appeal to. Also just an opinion. julee

[jeanze]

Julee, I think the Undone Dare list would be a good reminder for those who have accepted, but also make it clear that if they need to bow out of the dare, just to let us know, so it can be assigned to someone else. I don't think anyone should feel overly pressured. Like others, I feel that the benefits of participating in the dare challenges extend far beyond the monetary. I've found inspiration, been moved "outside my box", tried new tools and techniques, laughed my butt off, found pride in my achievement of meeting a dare. How can you put a price tag on those aspects of this experience? The artist gets those as a major bonus! I also agree that the opening bid should be kept under $5. I'd even go so far as to say I think that all dare cards should be started at the SAME opening bid of $4.99. I know that this might not be a popular opinion with some folks, and that's okay. I'm not here to dictate... just sharing my thoughts. I honestly believe a consistent, affordable starting bid will enhance this exercise. Ultimately, it's Jillian's call! So I'm just going to hush up now and be patient. :-) Jeanne

[julee_bug]

The UNDONE DARE thread is up. http://groups.ebay.com/thread.jspa?forumID=300009040&threadID=1500175628&tstart=0&start=-1

[robsfweak]

Greetings! Here's my 'serious' thoughts about dares: Traditionally, a dare is a challenge, which is typically dangerous, inappropriate, or an exercise in poor judgement -- so it makes sense that the person who accepts the dare is taking the risk that he/she will get an idea that isn't as marketable as another, or is not something that he/she would be as successful in creating. But, that's the nature of a dare, and that is what this game has been all about. I would like to see every card that we create sell (dare or not), but, that's probably not going to happen, and not selling is part of the game. Remember what your mother told you: Stop staring at your brother! No, wait, that's what my mother told me...oh, yes, now I remember: It's only fun until someone gets hurt! Good luck! And, Jillian, thanks again for keeping this all together, I know that it has to be a challenge! Penny 🙂

[julee_bug]

Good point, Penny. Not selling IS part of the game. But, you can't argue that, a fairy on a milkweed pod (jeanze's dare for me which was sold to a woman who is not a member of this group) is, obviously, MUCH more marketable than a picture of Davey Jones' gym locker. (which was one of the dares I gave). Maybe part of the reason some of these dares aren't being done is because the artists see that people are issuing insane, unmarketable dares & then not bidding on them. Note, I said PART of the reason... julee

[shellrose]

I was astonished that someone (outside this group) bought my chicken crossing the road! When I posted it I just thought, oh well, here goes! LOL, you just never know! shell ( she must have been a crossing guard) 😉

[julee_bug]

shell Your chicken crossing the road was a blast... my daughter & I both loved it. julee

[shellrose]

Thanks, Julee...and daughter! 🙂

[mountainshack]

That could be true - julee - about the marketability about some dares. But I think people shouldn't sign up for a dare if they are afraid of an "unmarketable" idea. I know that some times things happen in life that will prevent someone from getting it done - sick kids, emergencies, etc. Of course those things are so excusable. But I really feel if people are only concerned about doing some art that will sell, then the dares are probably not for them. And I don't think the darers should be discouraged, and feel that they should only give out ordinary, "sellable" dares. How boring would that be? I know I'm feeling a little concerned about giving out a crazy dare now. I think I'm willing to do any dare, and will again soon, after I get back from a little trip this week. saffron

[jeanze]

Now this is interesting... How many dares have sold to people OUTSIDE this group? Two of mine did! I don't know if anything is truly unmarketable. I mean, there are a lot of unusual people lurking here on eBay... ;-)

[robsfweak]

Shell...that chicken was sooooo cute! Saffron...you're right, if the person is concerned with only producing a dare card with a marketable idea, then that person shouldn't participate. The dares are not a requirement to be in this group, I think some people enjoy the challenge of it more than others. I did it once, and it was fun! It may not be for everyone, though. Penny 🙂

[julee_bug]

saffron & Penny- I agree with both of you. I LOVE the crazy dares. And I agree that "safe" dares aren't really dares (or any fun). And I could be wrong about marketability... these crazy dares are the only things I've sold in months. I'm just playing devil's advocate, if you will. Its hard for some people to step outside their comfort zone. And when they do & its met with a complete lack of response, its discouraging. My personal opinion is, if you wouldn't bid on it, don't dare it. julee