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Has anyone heard of this!!!

Was perusing the ACEO category to see what if anything was selling well or even not well...just selling, period. I came across this listing and wondered if anyone else had seen it. Admittedly, I haven't looked at much lately as I've had a number of private commissions to finish, now I'm obviously going to start re-listing on good old eBay. I'm all for good health in any form possible, however, this kind of info, to many potential buyers, is not good, unless it's a concrete validated fact. I would be interested in reading what you all think. I e-mailed the artist expressing desire to read the study and requested he send me a link or info pertaining to such, but have yet to receive a reply. Jill Ball http://cgi.ebay.com/FREE-ACEO-Original-Oil-Painting-Art-Wild-Hummingbird_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ...
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Wow! I'm not sure what to make of that. I don't know if it violates any kind of eBay policy or not. I was a bit bothered by his auction title of "FREE ACEO Original Oil Painting Art Wild Hummingbird," when his opening bid amount was $9.90. How is that free? Well, the guy has only 22 feedbacks and has already received one neg. He may not last. -- Kathy

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Cancer is a Big and succesful business in the USA and the rest of the world! Evidently correct grammar is not so big. You can find a specialist to endorse or vilify any product. Just picture the colon cleansing guy on the infomercials. Just saying.........
How are things on the farm? Well no one is bleeding and everyone's fed.
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I suggest you READ THE FEEDBACK - and note the 'item as described' dinged stars. -- ~Jillian artist, Jillian Crider ... google me!
~Jillian

artist, Jillian Crider

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As far as paints go - many are toxic, or were. I think they are better now. I know when I discovered VERY old oil paints of my grandfather's when I was about 8 years old, and started using them in secret in the garage. The oil was oozing out and the tubes were corroded, but the white had a HUGE poison label on it. I didn't care. I used it anyway. So it's certain COLOR pigments, rather than a brand name from what I know - what's that red color - think that is one color. Sheesh - my mind has gone blank - that is why (cadmium?) there are other colors used or 'hues' which don't use the same pigment. -- ~Jillian artist, Jillian Crider ... google me!
~Jillian

artist, Jillian Crider

... google me!
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Wikipedia - toxicity of oil paints "Toxicity Many of the historical pigments were dangerous. Many toxic pigments, such as emerald green (copper(II)-acetoarsenite) and orpiment (arsenic sulfide), to name only two, have fallen from use. Some pigments still in use are toxic to some degree, however. Many of the reds and yellows are produced using cadmium, and vermilion red uses natural or synthetic mercuric sulfide or cinnabar. Flake white and Cremnitz white are made with basic lead carbonate. The cobalt colors, including cobalt blue and cerulean blue, are made with cobalt compounds. Some varieties of cobalt violet are made with cobalt arsenate. Manufacturers advise that care should be taken when using paints with these pigments. They advise never to spray apply toxic paints. Read the health warnings on the label. Some artists choose to avoid toxic pigments entirely, while others find that the unique properties of the paints more than compensate for the small risks inherent in using them. Zinc white and titanium white may carry a California health label for lead content. Those paints contain far less lead than the lead whites. Some manufacturers put the text "California only" above the warning. Thinners such as turpentine and white spirit are flammable. Some of them, particularly the poor grades of turpentine, have a strong odor. Both turpentine and odorless mineral spirits can be harmful to the health if used inappropriately. Thinners made from D-limonene are thought by some to have some potential for risk. The EPA has not made that determination, however. Generally speaking, these risks are minor if the materials are used as intended. Solvents can be made safer by painting in a well-ventilated area, and paint is likely only dangerous in the hands of small children." -- ~Jillian artist, Jillian Crider ... google me!
~Jillian

artist, Jillian Crider

... google me!
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So, it is about which PIGMENT is poison. PIGMENT is the basis of ALL art materials. It is just the 'binder' that is used that makes it either 'pastel', 'watercolor', 'acrylic', 'oil', etc. So, if the pigment is a toxic one, it will be toxic no matter what medium you use in that color - this is not just about oil paint. -- ~Jillian artist, Jillian Crider ... google me!
~Jillian

artist, Jillian Crider

... google me!
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I think worse than the claim of certain paints being toxic is the line that Golders posted: "Cancer is a Big and succesful business in the USA and the rest of the world!" Who is he to say? It doesn't violate any eBay policies that I know of, but to make that statement in an art listing is kinda weird (for lack of a better word). Is he implying that certain paint companies are making toxic paints to support the allegedly profitable cancer industry? What a goof! Regardless, I think his feedback will sink him rather quickly. It's not particularly good. -- Kathy -- Edited by poozybear at 05/03/2009 4:49 PM PDT

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"Cancer Industry" could just as easily refer to people selling carcinogen free oil paintings.

"All black and white, nice." ~ golders
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Well I was taken aback when I first read his blurb and then I decided perhaps he's an idiot and thought this would be a good gimmick to enhance sales. Since he reiterates "he cares about his buyers health." I looked up everything I could concerning this doctor and wasn't able to find anything pertaining to his recommendation of a certain brand of paints. I still think it's a cheesy tactic to assume. Jill
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It is. Any carcinogens in the paint would only pose a threat to the artist during the painting process. I've never heard of anyone being harmed by a completed, DRY painting. For that matter, I've never heard of an artist being harmed either. Maybe if you eat the paint? -- Kathy

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I believe that for the lead paint (old) you can absorb it through the skin, and perhaps some of the others, too. -- ~Jillian artist, Jillian Crider ... google me!
~Jillian

artist, Jillian Crider

... google me!
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Speaking on behalf of all of us who don't chew on the paintings we purchase, let me say that I don't really give a poop. Of course, everyone knows that watercolours are NOT carginogenic. Buy watercolours and stay healthy. (this has been a paid announcement by Heather) The guy sounds a bit kooky. In the last paragraph of his blurb, he switches from first person to third person and back.
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Watercolor toxicity: http://www.wetcanvas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5711650 -- ~Jillian artist, Jillian Crider ... google me!
~Jillian

artist, Jillian Crider

... google me!
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Well, we all know food colouring is bad for you. I'm not sure what to use then. Crushed fruit?
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