Question thread: Final value fee change in most categories

[seller_update@ebay]

As you know, fees vary across categories as eBay always strives to achieve lowest total fees across category competitors. Starting on March 1, 2022, final value fees for Store sellers and those without a store will increase slightly. You can learn more about that here, or review the fee comparison chart here. Feel free to ask any questions below! 

Please note that eBay experts will be present and engaging on the boards between 8 am and 4:00 pm PST on 2.9.

[mam98031]

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@dansan_5985 wrote:

BAD FOR BUSINESS EBAY!!!!  SHAME SHAME 

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What is?  The FVF increases or the reasons we will get some FVF refunds that we haven't gotten in the past?  or is it a combination?

[theinventorbob]

To me the increased fees feel like eBay is preparing to get sold or go out of business by radically reducing regular casual U.S. sellers like me.   Lately I’ve been listing more items in other APS the charge much less because my markup is small anyway.  Those other platforms are the NEW eBay I guess.  Too bad.  EBay has been fun over the last 20 or so years.  Good-bye eBay.  

[art4collectors]

100% agree with this seller's remarks posted here. He expressed what I would have done, so I am 100% in agreement with everything that has been said. Just started 25th year on eBay and it is practically impossible to make money on eBay working full time now. I am loosing money already on much of what I sell and eBay is making all the money. The promoted listings is the biggest scam they have done along with added and taken fees for shipping and taxes. Laws should protect seller's from this thief, it should be illegal. I was told eBay seller could opt out and pay the taxes in each county that was due and we could collect the taxes from the buyers. That is insult upon insult. Paying taxes on eBay items is like paying taxes at a year sell or flea market. There is NO free enterprise in America anymore. And for what, to give the money to other countries???  To give $20+ Million dollars to a family of immigrants in California who filed 53 false PPP free money & were sentenced to only 10 years in prison. The money is gone and guess what, the 3 people are too, the day they were to report to Federal prison. Now they are fugitives ad it cost even more money trying to find someone that has millions to run and hide. Either way the honest people trying to make ends meet, lose out and eBay always wins big with increased profits year after year. I have to lower my prices just to make a sell now. When I send a best offer, the buyer makes a lower counter offer. They when you work hard getting the item packed and sent within a day, buyers no longer leave any feedback. SCAM!

[vhm5150]

For those new to the game or too old to remember......

-All the crying and whinning in the World won't change a thing!!! You can think it, say it, and type it - but you will always get the same result. Nada

-Big Business has figured it out (not just ebay) as long as you have a place to vent and see others doing the same then you don't feel alone, so whala - the new and improved Jedi mind trick.....and they are making billions from your complacency.

-So while we are not a large volume buyer or seller; we are Red Blood Americans and vow NOT to conduct ANY business on ebay until the business model moves back in-line with the Seller making a profit. We challenge you to do the same. United We Stand, Divided We Fall...

[tanbeach]

You are so right!! But guessing nobody will do the same ☹️ That is why so many people are using other methods to sell their items now because eBay is getting so greedy! As a seller it is getting harder to make any money as soon as my year is up with my store I am out!! Not worth my time anymore. I will find or create another platform!! Good luck

[murphys_mercantile]

Every single company who ignores the people who make them money are the companies that fail.

These updates do nothing to solve a single problem that sellers are facing on a daily basis. In fact it creates bigger problems for them! You are raising fees on sellers which is reducing out margins! Are you trying to drive away sellers? Cause you are doing one hell of a job at it. You better hope and pray that a better selling site doesn't come along that won't screw over their sellers. You'll be begging for sellers to come back if and when that happens.

Shame on you.

[thethriftyartist]

I find it very ironic that eBay is promoting how hailing a store will cost the seller LESS in FVF and even show an example of how much less fees are when you have a store. Yet the next seller update block is “increased fees on seller stores”. False advertising at its finest. With adding the FVF on top of taxes and shipping, this puts me out of the race. I’ve been an eBay seller since it’s inception. Literally since it began. But I’ll be moving along. Having a freaking yard sale is less work than trying to decipher the sales reports. So long ebay. It’s been…….more frustrating over the years. 

[lookhere]

Shame on you ebay! All you are doing is driving away the sellers. Thanks to this update I'm now aware of your competitors. Sure they all charge a fee or have their unique learning curve however ebay has become so complex and so many little nit picky details that will get you a VERO suspension that it makes little sense to stay.

[powell-memorabilia]

if there are sellers on eBay that don’t make a profit, they should absolutely stop. Straight away. The vast majority of sellers on eBay make good profit. Why else would they sell here? Oh no, you won’t get a lot of support for your proposed straight, because sellers don’t want to forgo profits for your experiment.

[oceana2003]

Sounds good to me! Guess  I have plenty to put on fb marketplace for awhile. Any other suggestions of platforms with less fees than ebay??

[d-k_treasures]

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@coffeebean832 wrote:

OK- I didn't say the 14 day portion changed today. I said the UA in general was updated today- and it was- so I'm not sure what the 10 years comment was for? Nothing I posted was incorrect.

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They had to get their post count up to 2 per 100 posts.

[d-k_treasures]

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@iprefervintage wrote:

Sellers have options. I don't understand why Ebay doesn't just charge the same percentage across the board.  What is the logic behind that? How can Ebay justify the raising of fees? 

Ebay is raising fees, yet sellers are receiving less service. Talk about shrinkflation. One of my favorite things about Ebay use to be the communication between ebay and it's customers (sellers). That's gone. We use to receive an easy to read monthly invoice. That is also gone and was replaced with a hard to read excell spread sheet provided by Managed Payments. The glitches. I'm having a good evening, so I won't go into detail there. But Ebay should hang their heads in shame in regards to glitches which completely screwed our sales last quarter.   We use to have an easy way to report those issues. Not anymore.   And the listing platform. For Pete's sake, who came up with that boondoggle? The forced item specifics have created a mess. I always used item specifics because they were a form of tags, but when Ebay techs got their hands in their and added all of their uneducated suggestions they really created a mess and reduced listing efficiency.  Table lamps don't have fan blades and you will never find a Pikachu in a nativity set. This is the kind of rubbish I find in your drop down suggestions. Do you honestly believe that is worth a rate increase? 

I honestly don't mind paying fees. I get it. But when Ebay is not getting the job done and the changes over the past 2 years have had a negative impact on sellers then maybe you need to take a step back and rethink matters and how you can make things better. 

Here's a clue: The answer is not in promoted listings. 

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And that's why you can't find anything on here anymore. Easier to search google to find something here.

But removing subcategories on things dear to me - like model trains - just trashed the browsing aspect of it. I've always done auctions only, ending soonest and newly listed, BIN only several times a day. Now I'm not doing that in that category. Sorry, sellers. I want to find the OLD trains that most people don't know what it is because they just found it in great-grandpa's attic - like 1920's and earlier.

If they do that with toys and hobbies - vintage and antique toys like they did with model trains, I have no reason to even look here anymore, let alone buy anything.

[d-k_treasures]

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@mam98031 wrote:

The fee increase of .30 or .35 is likely easiest to explain by looking at it as funding the FVF refunds on partial refunds and on buyer  requested cancellation.

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Why? The FVF refunds should be given in these instances. A 'buyer requested cancellation' is 'undoing the transaction', therefore they should undo EVERYTHING about it. Period.

[lcbergh]

We've been selling since eBay started.  They have always known they were the big fish in town and could raise them whenever they wanted however much they wanted and do nothing in return for sellers.  We even boycotted eBay twice with a large number of sellers until we were forced back because the other platforms are just as bad about fees or don't have the buyer base.  It sucks.  Welcome to unfettered capitalism at work.

[lcbergh]

May I suggest, if you are going to charge us more that you do 2 things: 

1)  Stop charging fees on sales tax. Sellers don't receive this tax money.  

2)  Add something that is a pain in the butt for sellers:  Add a dynamic insurance calculator to shipping so the actual shipping amount reflects insurance.  Right now, we have to  buffer the fees using the handling fees, which makes us look like jerks for adding a handling fee into the shipping.   it's too high for some and too low for others.  If we don't do this, we get screwed by shipping rates that don't show the expense of the insurance at the other end.  Give us technology that actually helps and isn't just a grand new look that we have to relearn each time you "upgrade" our user experience.