07-27-2022 12:18 PM
Greetings everyone!
I was just thinking that I had very much enjoyed doing the "cover a day" challenge back in the Spring of 2020. Perhaps there isn't as much motivation to do this as there was then, but I do still miss having conversations with others who like the hobby.
I will set for myself the challenge of posting a cover each day on this thread every day for ninety days. Anyone who wants to join me and show some postal history may feel free to do so (doesn't matter if its modern, older, US or any other part of the world).
For those who do not remember the prior thread, it is here.
12-07-2022 07:21 AM
Here's a cover that contrasts my last post. While a person could fully prepay the postage on a letter to Switzerland from the US in 1866 they could also pay only enough to get it to the border of Switzerland. In that case, the sender could pay 28 cents for a destination in the German Austrian Postal Union via Prussian Closed Mail. The blue box that reads "Aachen Franco" indicates that the letter was received at the Prussian exchange office in Aachen and they considered it paid to a GAPU destination. The second blue box indicates that the letter is only paid to the border. The red crayon 10 stands for 10 Swiss centimes to be collected on delivery.
12-08-2022 05:22 PM
Sorry for missing a couple of days -
6 December 1917
One of my favorite covers since it's a commercial cover from Reunion to Ste Croix, Switzerkand. where the Decoppet test canceller was used as a receiver. The addressee was in thebusiness of manufacturing record players, and other types of musical hardware products. The company got its start making music boxes !
12-08-2022 05:23 PM
Well that didn't work - again ...
Sorry for missing a couple of days -
6 December 1917
One of my favorite covers since it's a commercial cover from Reunion to Ste Croix, Switzerkand. where the Decoppet test canceller was used as a receiver. The addressee was in thebusiness of manufacturing record players, and other types of musical hardware products. The company got its start making music boxes !
12-08-2022 05:32 PM
7 December 1937
The last known use of this Luzern as a forwarding date stamp. One never sees forwarding or receiving date stamps during this period so I'm not sure why this is so marked. The interesting fact is that the previous last known use of this device was in 1926 as a receiver, so it was sitting somewhere for 11 years before it was apparently used again!!!
12-08-2022 05:34 PM
That's intersting. The text shows when using Safari browser but the image just gets a question icon! I guess eBay is doing away with Apple products in retaliation for Apple controling its app site. LOL
12-08-2022 05:44 PM
What a hassle signing in to use ebay chat, Why would anyone use Google, sign in, Apple sign-in or Facebook to use eBay. Talk about creating different passwords for years for security reason , then to just give them all to the Big Three. Not for me thankyou!
Anyway - 8 December 1903
Lausanne to Appenzell using Lausanne razor canceller.
This is a really neat item. There is a note on the back of this package tag that tells the recipient that if the attached key doesn't open the "clothes hamper" that another lady close by should have an extra key. These tags were usually tied to packages or boxes, etc, this was sent first class mail with a key tied to it!
12-08-2022 05:47 PM
Amazing when using Google Chrome to post with an image, the image didn't show so I deleted the post. I went back to Safari posted there. I can't see the image there, but can come to Chrome and view it here.
F****** amazing! Makes one wonder what changed in the last two days that makes it so difficult to post on this thread.
12-08-2022 05:51 PM
It appears there have been some software changes that have caused a few issues. One of them is having the topic get all of these "Re:Re:..." added to the front. I tried doing a response to the main topic to see if we can clean that up a bit.
Here's a triple weight letter from Belgium to Italy. 1869 year date. The 24/3 helps to confirm the triple rate with the "3" on the denominator. I am not certain yet how the postage was broken down or where the "24," presumed to be centimes, was passed. But, for those who are not familiar with such things, it was a common practice for mail between some countries to include the amount of postage to be passed on to one the following postal agencies.
12-08-2022 06:32 PM
I really have issues with the software eBay uses for these forums, though the biggest is not being able to click on the forum link and have it take me either to the last message I read in the thread or the first message I haven't read. It keeps track of those for me, so it can highlight threads with unread messages, and there a setting in the profile that is supposed to do what I want, but doesn't. There are currently close to 30 pages in this thread right now (which I think is great!), but I have to start at the first page, then jump to the last page, then work backwards until I see something I have seen before, then read forward... 😞
Now, just to make my rant fit the theme: Cover from a Henderson Motorcycle dealer/distributor in Lourenco Marques to the distributor of parts in NY.
Mozambique
12-09-2022 04:10 PM
9 December 1912
Business letter from Cham to Luzern.
Canceler was one of a group of about 15 that were build to test the interchangeability of parts which would allow mass production of Decoppet's flexible-head canceller design.
12-10-2022 03:48 PM
10 December 1884
This ordinary postal card originated at the Yverdon train station and was carried to Geneva, where it received a transit date stamp prior to going by train to Paris, France.
The Geneva date stamp is the interesting aspect of this item. The canceller was manufactured in 1872 for use on outgoing foreign mail which at the time required a "PD" marking when paid to its destination. Swiss post thought it a good idea to save time by incorporating the PD within the date stamp! Once the UPU came into being this PD marking was no longer necessary, so Geneva had the PD in the "sack" excised and continued using this device until about 1886. You can just see two very small remnants of the PD. There were 5 other date stamps in the family and all continued in use once the PD was deleted.
I have never seen another Geneva marking used as a transit date stamp between Switzerland and Paris from this time period. I only wonder why this card had it applied.
12-10-2022 05:41 PM
But it's not a forwarding mark. The address is "Luzern (Schweiz)" in the difficult Sütterlin script, so if the item was forwarded—where? It got to the place the sender directed it to, and there are no forwarding notations. Receiver cancels would have been on the back. Since the carefully placed stamps are the complete 1937 Winterhilfswerk set this is almost certainly a philatelic item. The stray Luzern mark perhaps has only a decorative purpose, especially since the canceller had been out of use (but not out of existence) for so long. Just my 3+2 pfennigs.
12-10-2022 07:00 PM
Hi Jim,
I think I worded it slightly wrong. The device was around all during the late 1920s and early to mid-1930's used on outgoing mail especially Express mail. so we know the device was available to clerks for use on outgoing mail. The interest here actually is that it is on incoming mail,whether as a receiver, or forwarding. Forwarding uses were always on the front, while receivers after 1907 were on the back of envelopes. So this is likely forwarding. I can't figure out the script below the Luzern, Schweiz, but it is like "am Sälihügnl" which doesn't make sense. LOL I'm sure the stamps are philatelic but the canceler that is now collected was not considered special at the time, in fact most had disappeared and the only ones surviving in 1937 were the two Luzern devices, Chur and Neuchatel. One of the Luzern and the Chur are both know to be used circa 1940, but they look different with most if not all of the "razor" date bridge pattern missing. I'm not sure how or why the device ended up in the incoming section of the post office but here it is being used on mail that was going to other than the main Luzern Post Office for delivery. I know one thing, the judges really like this type of item, whether philatelic franking or not. LOL ); >) My exhibits are about the cancels, so a few philatelic items have snuck in even thought the original senders and clerks had no idea they were creating a collectable since most never knew the circumstances of the origin of the razor cancelers.
12-10-2022 11:32 PM
Greetings, old Pals!
Nice to see you are all still kicking. Hope you are all doing as well as can be expected.
I'm still kicking but not near as hard.
Hope you all have a pleasant holiday season.
Mitchell
12-11-2022 06:12 AM
Greetings Mitch..nice to hear from you again! Some of the old dudes are still around and causing trouble I’m still dealing with my Machin collection, now coming to an end, King Charlie won’t be as exciting. Stick around and join the fun!