01-30-2019 12:30 PM
I bought an item which broke within a week of purchase, opened a return, and seller agreed to a refund upon return, eBay sent a USPS Priority Mail shipping label. I printed out the label, placed it on the package, and scheduled a pickup at my address. I never scheduled a pickup before, but my porch is isolated from the sidewalk, I have never had a package stolen in the ten years I've lived here, and sometimes packages would be on the porch for days while I was on vacation with no problem. So I figured it would be okay. Anyway, I scheduled a pickup for January 23rd, USPS never came to pick up the package. It was on the porch all day. The next day it was snowing/raining, I placed a letter on my mailbox telling the carrier to pickup the package as I scheduled a pickup yesterday and they never picked it up. The package was hidden in the location where packages are usually left on the porch. I left for work around 6 A.M.
At about 8:15 A.M I received and email from USPS saying, "We have successfully completed your package pickup." I texted my housemate and asked him to check if they picked it up. It was still there. My housemate went to work at about 9 A.M, when he returned at 1 P.M the package was gone. We assumed that the carrier picked it up when he delivered the mail (the mail was in the mail box.)
Later that night, I put my pickup confirmation # into USPS's website to double-check, and it said, "Status: Canceled."
The next day I attempted to email and call USPS to figure out if they picked up the package, as the tracking information didn't update. They said that they will contact the local post office. On Saturday the 26th, I got a call from the USPS office at the sending location (in Illinois, I live outside of Pittsburgh.) She said that they need to call my local post office.
On Sunday, the status of the inquiry was listed as "Case closed." Additionally, the tracking number still then (and now) hasn't been updated since the assumed pickup.
I emailed and called USPS again on Monday, and they said the case is still open until the 30th, I'll get an email from them after then.
Yesterday, I went to my local post office and they called the carrier who remembers picking up a package from "1X35" when my address is "1X45" a few doors down. The supervisor said the carrier probably did pick up the package, and just mis-remembers the address. He told me to open up an insurance claim on USPS's website and that will make them look for the package more thoroughly. The insurance only covers $50 on the item (which I bought for $360), but yesterday I opened up a claim, which it said that since I opened the claim too early it might be automatically denied. Will that still push them to look more thoroughly? Should I open up another claim after it is denied?
Today I emailed the seller, telling them that it might take a while for the package to get to them, or the package might be lost for good. I also called an Ebay representative asking about what happens if the seller receives the package in a few weeks (especially now that the weather looks like there might be even more delay.) They gave contradictory information, telling me that it is either the "seller's discretion" or they must give me a refund if they receive it.
My questions are:
Right now, I pretty much resigned the $360 (minus maybe the $50 insurance) as gone, but I just want to know if there is anything else to do that I haven't done already which will increase the chances of the package being found.
Thank you.
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02-01-2019 06:39 AM
Which is why I said "kindly shoe off." As far as I understand it the board's existence is to answer relevant questions, and that is the case with this specific post. If somebody posts something irrelevant, ignorant and negative I will respond in kind. Especially since it was neither asked for nor warranted and was based on ignorant assumptions.
02-01-2019 11:43 AM - edited 02-01-2019 11:43 AM
My local post office called me today, and they said that they think it was stolen off the porch since it would've been scanned by now. I felt pretty bummed and resigned to giving up, but an hour after they called I just got a message that the package was Delivered to the proper address. Boy do I feel relieved.
Thanks all for the help, thought I would leave an update in case anybody has a similar problem in the future.
02-01-2019 07:14 PM
@ga-8370 wrote:
@cream_couture wrote:That’s ridiculous. I would have called back until I got a reasonable rep. eBay rests their hat on delivery scans. The buyer is legally responsible for the item until it is delivered to you. If eBay wanted to refund the buyer they should have covered it. If that was recent I would call eBay.
eBay does not agree on what we deem is ridiculous: If a package is lost, whoever paid for the label is responsible, as explained in e.g. this post.
It's been repeated over and over: For more, research what brian.t@ebay, same team, different person, said on the matter.
I still would have called back and I still advise disneyshopper to call ebay if it was recent.
02-01-2019 07:25 PM
@cream_couture wrote:
@ga-8370 wrote:
@cream_couture wrote:That’s ridiculous. I would have called back until I got a reasonable rep. eBay rests their hat on delivery scans. The buyer is legally responsible for the item until it is delivered to you. If eBay wanted to refund the buyer they should have covered it. If that was recent I would call eBay.
eBay does not agree on what we deem is ridiculous: If a package is lost, whoever paid for the label is responsible, as explained in e.g. this post.
It's been repeated over and over: For more, research what brian.t@ebay, same team, different person, said on the matter.
I still would have called back and I still advise disneyshopper to call ebay if it was recent.
And I read that post. It wasn't clear. There was conflicting info and ebay rep never came back to clarify.
02-01-2019 07:27 PM
@sac945 wrote:My local post office called me today, and they said that they think it was stolen off the porch since it would've been scanned by now. I felt pretty bummed and resigned to giving up, but an hour after they called I just got a message that the package was Delivered to the proper address. Boy do I feel relieved.
Thanks all for the help, thought I would leave an update in case anybody has a similar problem in the future.
I am so happy to hear that it was delivered!!!
02-02-2019 01:02 AM
@cream_couture wrote:
@cream_couture wrote:
@ga-8370 wrote:
@cream_couture wrote:That’s ridiculous. I would have called back until I got a reasonable rep. eBay rests their hat on delivery scans. The buyer is legally responsible for the item until it is delivered to you. If eBay wanted to refund the buyer they should have covered it. If that was recent I would call eBay.
eBay does not agree on what we deem is ridiculous: If a package is lost, whoever paid for the label is responsible, as explained in e.g. this post.
It's been repeated over and over: For more, research what brian.t@ebay, same team, different person, said on the matter.
I still would have called back and I still advise disneyshopper to call ebay if it was recent.
And I read that post. It wasn't clear. There was conflicting info and ebay rep never came back to clarify.
Spoon-feeding the easy research on what brian.t@ebay, same team, different person, reaffirmed about an eBay return that's missing or lost:
brian@ebay wrote:If the item hasn't moved in 5 days (or 7 days) will the case be closed in favor of the seller? Thanks!
If the buyer paid for return shipping then we would close the case in the sellers favor. If the seller paid for return shipping then it would close in the buyers favor. This is how we have decided claims in the past and that will continue going forward.