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erotwriter · ‎12-22-2017

What does a buyer do when sellers lie about the value on customs forms and customs start to get suspicious?

Two sellers I bought from lied on the forms (I only found out once customs sent out the note), claiming the value is 0.100 and 1.00 (items, roughly $1.90-$4 per order) and customs charged me on $10 value per item. In order to re-evaluate the value I had to show customs the order and was accused of getting the sellers to lie on the customs forms. So I had to either pay the customs value on $10 or get into trouble.

I never ask for false values because I have no reason to since my orders are almost always of low value. Makes me mad!

richard1rst · ‎12-23-2017

Which brings me back to my original comment:

Your ethics are such that you are willing to lie, cheat and steal in order to make a sale. With that lack of integrity in mind why should I believe anything else the seller says.

pingpong517 had a pretty good rant. That willingness to cut corners is what pretty much collapsed Enron. First they shaved a corner and no one complained. The results looked OK. So the rounded it a bit and still no one complained. Then the beat the corner to a pulp and still no one complained. By then the pattern was set. You can do anything you want as long as the results look good. But all that they did was create a den of thieves.

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand

sam9876 · ‎12-23-2017

Do you pay use tax on the items that you purchase from outside your state?

richard1rst · ‎12-23-2017

Nice try. But I am a seller, not a buyer. And anything that I do happen to buy for reale is tax exempt as I have a state re-sellers license.

And, yes, I file the appropriate sales tax form, and pay whatever I do owe, every quarter as required by law.

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand

green-night · ‎12-23-2017

Why do you care about the taxes collected in a foreign contry?

sam9876 · ‎12-24-2017

Let me start again with a simple question.

Do you ever buy things from outside your state that are for personal use?

postingid2017 · ‎12-24-2017

I agree with you and ping pong. A friend of mine was fined heavily for giving the buyer a "gift" (as she forgot to add the item as a gift) but because she did, our government fined her. I never have and never will lower the value nor list an item as a "gift." My train of thoughts is, if a buyer is willing to cheat their own government, what would they do to lie/cheat to get a free item from me? I totally agree.

There was only one item that I shipped as a gift, but it was because the buyer hounded me for weeks to have the doll for her daughter, but she did not want to pay the $2.99 that it was listed for, she wanted it for $.99. So I just sent it, and guess what, not one "thank you" from her. (

7606dennis · ‎12-24-2017

@sam9876 wrote:
Do you pay use tax on the items that you purchase from outside your state?

Yes, Sam. I pay my USE tax.

"It is an intelligent man that is aware of his own ignorance."

richard1rst · ‎12-24-2017

@sam9876 wrote:
Let me start again with a simple question.

Do you ever buy things from outside your state that are for personal use?

No. Plain and simple. I am a business and I do not commingle by personal and business activity. Anything I need for personal use I buy from my local brick and mortar stores (which of course automatically adds the sales tax).

Despite what seems to be your opinion of the world, there actually are some of us who do play by the rules. Oh yes, I know - so old fashioned. It's called ETHICS.

Shakespeare: This above all: to thine own self be true, And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man.

Did you think my 40,000 feedback came from cheating?

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand

sam9876 · ‎12-24-2017

"Anything I need for personal use I buy from my local brick and mortar stores"

I find that really hard to believe.

richard1rst · ‎12-24-2017

@sam9876 wrote:
"Anything I need for personal use I buy from my local brick and mortar stores"

I find that really hard to believe.

Why?

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand

atikovi · ‎12-24-2017

@richard1rst wrote:
@sam9876 wrote:
"Anything I need for personal use I buy from my local brick and mortar stores"

I find that really hard to believe.
Why?

In this day and age almost everybody buys something online that comes out of state. So you submitted the sales tax for the ink cartridge bought out of state? https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-GENUINE-HP-61XL-BLACK-INK-/322937025542?nma=true&si=p%252BFZTV3vctRNRCb...

richard1rst · ‎12-24-2017

@atikovi wrote:
@richard1rst wrote:
@sam9876 wrote:
"Anything I need for personal use I buy from my local brick and mortar stores"

I find that really hard to believe.
Why?
In this day and age almost everybody buys something online that comes out of state. So you submitted the sales tax for the ink cartridge bought out of state? https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-GENUINE-HP-61XL-BLACK-INK-/322937025542?nma=true&si=p%252BFZTV3vctRNRCb...

The ink cartridges were bought for my E-commerce business. And, yes, when I filed my sales tax form they were itemized as a business expense and the tax was paid. Is it really that hard for you to believe that some of us follow the rules? How sad.

Your comment "almost everybody" ignores generational practices. Younger people grew up and on computers. Fresh out of college my first work experience was long before computers had been developed (other than Univac and a couple of other mega-computers.) But the PC hadn't yet been developed. You are aware of "muscle memory"? Well shopping is a form of muscle memory. I prefer to physically examine what I am buying and I enjoy the social interaction at smaller privately owned B&M stores where the person behind the counter is more often than not the owner and a neighbor. I started my B&M store in 1968. I feel a sympatico for other B&M stores and I patronize them by habit and courtesy.

Judging by the attitude you have displayed, I don't really expect you to believe this and, quite frankly, I don't care. You seem to fall into that group of people that Spiro Agnew called "nattering nabobs of negativism"

"Laissez-faire capitalism (AKA The Great Material Continuum) is the only social system based on the recognition of individual rights and, therefore, the only system that bans force from social relationships." ~ Ayn Rand

atikovi · ‎12-24-2017

You must have me confused with a guy named sam.

green-night · ‎12-24-2017

@7606dennis wrote:
@sam9876 wrote:
Do you pay use tax on the items that you purchase from outside your state?
Yes, Sam. I pay my USE tax.

sam9876 · ‎12-25-2017

"The ink cartridges were bought for my E-commerce business. And, yes, when I filed my sales tax form they were itemized as a business expense and the tax was paid."

Why would you pay sales tax or use tax on something that is a business expense?