Dealing with a return and I have no intention of agreeing to a refund nor funding ebay back

[greyteksfw14]

So a little back story, a buyer bought a few tablets from me, he gets them and opens a not as described, his reason is the older tablet can't run everything he wanted, it was listed properly as a 2nd gen ipad but because he can't do everything he wants he wants a refund. I have absolutly no interest in this what so ever and seeing as ebay is now forcing me to link them my bank account instead of going through paypal so they get carte blanche to make withdrawls without my consent or agreement I already canceled my active listings and am also closing my paypal account. Now what does ebay have to actually force me to play along, as far as I'm aware they have zero ability to force me to play along, this money back guarantee is absolute bull**bleep** as it is because buyers can and will lie and cheat no matter what, ive noticed that already, so what can ebay realistically do considering ive already decided to take my business elsewhere? 

[greyteksfw14]

This seller is a jerk.

iPad 2nd generation 16gb. WiFi only. Used. Good condition. Works as it should. 

see thats the problem, that's the feedback left but his open case is that it doesn't work, and he left negative, he is upset because i said some have cases some dont first come first serve, he bought one and asked for a case to which i informed him his will not have one because I no longer have any with a case, that's what this entire * is about. Hopefully is own feedback can bite him in the ass.

and no we shouldn't have to accept non sense like this, it costs us money, ebay shouldn't be involved in the transaction past the point it says delivered. I don't have craiglist or facebook marketplace breathing down my neck about someone complaining, and they are both doing just fine financially. 

[candd205]

I don't agree with the buyer treating you this way. 

However, I have seen many people in your situation come back to the boards months or years later begging to be able to sell on eBay again and why won't eBay just forgive them for not paying their fees, or they try to pay the fees and can't figure it out or they finally pay the fees and eBay still won't let them sell. 

See ya again in a few months or years. 🙂

[greyteksfw14]

no you wont, there are other options these days to sell, if ebay wants to support scammers then they wont have my business, and I pay for legal representation as part of my insurance via work, i pay 100 bucks a year for a lawyer, and these kinds of cases are covered, i could just as easily file a small claims against ebay and the buyer right here in Texas, my only out of pocket is what i already pay. 

[mrdutch1001]

NO returns does not mean NO refunds...eBay's Money Back Guarantee. If perchance the buyer paid using a credit card through PayPal...well they can do  a charge-back and there is a 180 day time frame in which to do that...

Any monies in arrears, eBay can put to a Collection agency and that will still follow you...

[greyteksfw14]

And anything of the sort will cause me to file in small claims for maximum damages which well exceeds the sale price and with the feedback left it's open and shut as far as a case goes. What happened is the buyer bought an ipad2, it doesn't run the apps he wants and because i don't do returns he opened a case as not working, which his own feedback disagrees with. That is a scam, and I'd wager neither ebay nor him would show up to court so I could win a default judgement.

[elferg_1997]

You're obviously not fit to sell here. Try a yard sale

[pooh333piglet]

You have it all worked out for yourself and that's cool. It is what it is. You cant change ebay so change what you do.

It comes down to...

Do you want to be right or do you want to be happy? 

You wouldn't be posting if you had the latter (or both). You made your decision and while most sellers may secretly wish we could do this, we don't because we want to keep selling here. 

Life is full of difficult decisions. This one tho will effect selling here forever. It may end up being just fine for you or it could be awhile later seen as a mistake.

Either choice is ok. It is because you made it after thinking about it, discussing it here and possibly prayer.

We get you are mad. Angry. Sick of it. These buyers. Ugh. It does happen to most, if not all, sellers. You gotta do what you gotta do.

[southern*sweet*tea]

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@greyteksfw14 wrote:

Not in Texas they can't, consumer debt isn't something allowable for garnishment in Texas, the most they could do is harass me for the next 4 years to try to collect, and i already ignore phone calls i don't know. 

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Owing Ebay money wouldn't be consumer debt, it's a business debt. 

Yes, they can harass you for the next four years. They can take you to court and possibly get a judgment. They can then take anything of value (that's not exempted) to settle the debt. They can also trash your credit for the next 7-10 years.  Bad credit affects the price you pay on car and home insurance, it can affect your ability to get certain jobs, and IF you can get a loan in the future, your interest will be much higher.

[kensgiftshop]

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@greyteksfw14 

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"I have a few with cases on them, if you want one with a case please request, will ship one with a case as long as stock lasts"

Buyer orders one and request a case like the listing said to.

Buyer is mad because it didn't come with a case.

If you didn't have any left with a case, you should have removed that from the listing.

Buyer didn't get what they ordered so it's a good return.

[pooh333piglet]

Will you take 50 cents for that? 

[tools*]

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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

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@greyteksfw14 wrote:

Not in Texas they can't, consumer debt isn't something allowable for garnishment in Texas, the most they could do is harass me for the next 4 years to try to collect, and i already ignore phone calls i don't know. 

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Owing Ebay money wouldn't be consumer debt, it's a business debt. 

Yes, they can harass you for the next four years. They can take you to court and possibly get a judgment. They can then take anything of value (that's not exempted) to settle the debt. They can also trash your credit for the next 7-10 years.  Bad credit affects the price you pay on car and home insurance, it can affect your ability to get certain jobs, and IF you can get a loan in the future, your interest will be much higher.

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How exactly would eBay or a collection agency hired by eBay affect your credit rating without your Social Security number and date of birth?

[elferg_1997]

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@tools* wrote:

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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

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@greyteksfw14 wrote:

Not in Texas they can't, consumer debt isn't something allowable for garnishment in Texas, the most they could do is harass me for the next 4 years to try to collect, and i already ignore phone calls i don't know. 

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Owing Ebay money wouldn't be consumer debt, it's a business debt. 

Yes, they can harass you for the next four years. They can take you to court and possibly get a judgment. They can then take anything of value (that's not exempted) to settle the debt. They can also trash your credit for the next 7-10 years.  Bad credit affects the price you pay on car and home insurance, it can affect your ability to get certain jobs, and IF you can get a loan in the future, your interest will be much higher.

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How exactly would eBay or a collection agency hired by eBay affect your credit rating without your Social Security number and date of birth?

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They have your name and address, the rest is easy

[tools*]

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@elferg_1997 wrote:

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@tools* wrote:

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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

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@greyteksfw14 wrote:

Not in Texas they can't, consumer debt isn't something allowable for garnishment in Texas, the most they could do is harass me for the next 4 years to try to collect, and i already ignore phone calls i don't know. 

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Owing Ebay money wouldn't be consumer debt, it's a business debt. 

Yes, they can harass you for the next four years. They can take you to court and possibly get a judgment. They can then take anything of value (that's not exempted) to settle the debt. They can also trash your credit for the next 7-10 years.  Bad credit affects the price you pay on car and home insurance, it can affect your ability to get certain jobs, and IF you can get a loan in the future, your interest will be much higher.

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How exactly would eBay or a collection agency hired by eBay affect your credit rating without your Social Security number and date of birth?

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They have your name and address, the rest is easy

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Really? So you're saying that I could ruin the credit of anyone in the country simply because I have access to their name and address?

[monster-deals]

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@greyteksfw14 wrote:

so what can ebay realistically do considering ive already decided to take my business elsewhere? 

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Send you to collections and they will.

[southern*sweet*tea]

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@tools* wrote:

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@elferg_1997 wrote:

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@tools* wrote:

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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

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@greyteksfw14 wrote:

Not in Texas they can't, consumer debt isn't something allowable for garnishment in Texas, the most they could do is harass me for the next 4 years to try to collect, and i already ignore phone calls i don't know. 

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Owing Ebay money wouldn't be consumer debt, it's a business debt. 

Yes, they can harass you for the next four years. They can take you to court and possibly get a judgment. They can then take anything of value (that's not exempted) to settle the debt. They can also trash your credit for the next 7-10 years.  Bad credit affects the price you pay on car and home insurance, it can affect your ability to get certain jobs, and IF you can get a loan in the future, your interest will be much higher.

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How exactly would eBay or a collection agency hired by eBay affect your credit rating without your Social Security number and date of birth?

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They have your name and address, the rest is easy

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Really? So you're saying that I could ruin the credit of anyone in the country simply because I have access to their name and address?

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If you had a reason to, yes. If someone owed you money and all you had was a  name, or an email address, or a street address, for a few dollars and a single crumb of information you can have the entire cake.  You would have all the information you needed to file a judgment against the debtor.