selling fee's

[rts_computers]

anyone else think it's too steep, the charges, i mean paypal is an ebay company, they take 2% plus ebay takes ALL KINDS OF FEE'S so many you cant keep them all straight final value, insertion, etc etc, and you have to rely on ebay to be honest and not charge or refund when they are supposed to on those fee's too much to read to figure it all out, why cant they just make it simple like paypal...we charge you 2% or 5% of what your item sells for and 1.00 to list the item, or something along those lines.... i just got hit for 95.00 worth of fee's auto debited from my account, when i have only sold about 400.00 worth of stuff,  and the other thing i found out is if you buy shipping through fedex...it isnt deducted immediately like USPS,so if you mis estimate, or miscalculate and don't have enough shipping, fedex will still deliver the item but they bill ebay for the price and ebay bills you, i had an instance where fedex changed the shipping method, ie from ground to home delivery, i paid for ground by ebays price listed but i neglected to put in the measurements of the box, just the weight, and they changed it. 

[upgradedendmills]

You should always be aware of worst case scenario for all fees and charges way before you list anything.

[rts_computers]

your answer makes no sense, how can i be aware of "worst case scenario" when i dont understand the charges/terms and what they mean, insertion fee, final value fee, listing fee then i see promoting for no insertion fee's being charged, etc etc,  like i said should just be a flat, we charge you this much $1.00 to list items selling for between x and xx and 5.00 for items selling for between xx and xxx...etc.  and if you want to use buy it now thats an additional 4.00 or whatever,  plus we take 2 % of what you get for the item no matter what the cost,  or whatever the fee's would be whatever #'s they decide, but have it be up front and easy, not so confusing AND every little thing has a different fee or a different amount, then when they give you refunds those don;'t come quickly either

[18704d]

"your answer makes no sense, how can i be aware of "worst case scenario" when i dont understand the charges/terms and what they mean, insertion fee, final value fee, listing fee then  ..."

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By learning what those fees and terms mean.

We can help you here, learn those.

Until then, any other answer here, may not make sense or help you.

Thanks

Lynn

[fashunu4eeuh]

Hi, i don’t find the fees confusing and calculate them before listing my items. Below is a link to all selling fees. Ebay takes 10% of the final sale in most categories. PayPal takes 2.9% plus a few cents in a service fee. 

I don’t pay insertion fees unless i want to use a subtitle or a second category fee for higher priced items. Occasionally i will pay a few percentage points to promote my listings. I also calculate my shipping costs by weighing and measuring my package prior to listing. All this is necessary to set my prices to ensure i make the proper profits to keep me in business. 

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/fees-credits-invoices/selling-fees?id=4364

[lamber9347]

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@rts_computers wrote:

your answer makes no sense, how can i be aware of "worst case scenario" when i dont understand the charges/terms and what they mean, insertion fee, final value fee, listing fee then i see promoting for no insertion fee's being charged, etc etc,  <snip>

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This right here is your issue- you admit you haven't read the TOS. I've seen your post on another thread and now here. You have begun to sell but you admit you don't have a scale so you don't know the weight of the item you have shipped. Then you act surprised when the charges come in much higher. How can you expect to sell online if you haven't read the policies and rules. If they are too difficult for you to follow than online selling is perhaps not for you. 

You can get a scale on Amazon for $20 and a ruler at the .99 cents store. Since you sold a $400 item than you can afford $21.00 to set yourself up for shipping at home. PayPal and eBay are not the same company, you are incorrect. PP is only a venue for taking payments and eBay is only a platform for listing items for an individual to sell. Once you sign up for managed payments than everything will be handled on one platform for you. 

You are allowed to purchase your postage off of eBay however you then need to come back on here to update your order with the tracking number. There are separate charges for different items because you are not obligated to use everything. Therefore you are charged fees depending on which you select.

Just like going to a restaurant. You are charged for an entrée and separately for a drink or a dessert if you choose to order those. Pretty simple to understand but one has to look at the menu first. I do hope you take the time to read the policies, then get the tools you need, and you will be successful at selling online. If you have specific questions than come here and make a post but try to limit it to one question so you can get the best advice. Best of luck to you.... 

[luckythewinner]

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@rts_computers wrote:

 i mean paypal is an ebay company 

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You are mistaken.

PayPal has not been an eBay company for over 5 years. 

[rts_computers]

im not a business, i have items around that i choose to sell, i dont want to incur expenses to sell something, that would be counter productive, i use boxes and bubble wrap i have in my shed or basement from previous purchases to reuse to ship stuff, if i was a business i can see purchasing a scale, but i google the weight of the item and add more for shipping materials,  and paypal even says "paypal -an ebay company" so they are the same company.  lastly i didnt say i didn't read the fee's i said it would be easier if it were more straight forward like they had set amount for each thing described in 1 page not having to scroll and click all the words "final value fee" insertion fee, blah blah, just give us totals,,,if you list an item for this much, its this much to list it, and if you sell it for this much we take this much,,,simple!! but have ranges .. 1-100$ is this...100-500 and so on, just to simplify things. and yes i know i need to come back here to update my tracking info if i buy it at the post office which would be silly to do since you save money buying it here, i was speaking about someone else as to why they MAY have done it, because someone accused them of being cheap and trying to save money

[luckythewinner]

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@rts_computers wrote:

i paid for ground by ebays price listed but i neglected to put in the measurements of the box, just the weight, and they changed it. 

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So to put it another way, you did not pay enough and  Fedex caught you. 

[rts_computers]

also...show me where it says "when you buy postage through ebay, if you choose USPS the funds come out of paypal immediately, but if you choose fedex, they get billed to your seller account later,  i had chosen fedex for an item, bought the postage based on the weight of the item, (1st time selling)  the length width and height were pre filled, i didnt know i had to change those, the weight was correct, but FEDEX changed the price i was charged due to the box size that i didn't fill in and billed ebay who in turn billed me, i wasnt told or given notice that i made a mistake, i was just told to pay 65.00 for shipping for something that cost 20.00 for the buyer. because fedex also changed it to home delivery instead of ground or vice versa, without my consent or knowledge until the charge showed up in my ebay seller account, then i was told by ebay, that fedex is diffferent

[rts_computers]

umm..there was no catching, it was a mistake,,,ever made one? due to being new, point was they couldve returned the package to me, stamped postage due, or handed it back at the FEDEX LOCATION I DROPPED IT OFF AT... when i was standing there and they scanned it.

[rts_computers]

funny the web says different says they are seperate entities but paypal is owned by ebay

[luckythewinner]

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@rts_computers wrote:

 because fedex also changed it to home delivery instead of ground or vice versa

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I think you are mistaken about what happened. 

"Home delivery" is  surcharge that Fedex charges when it delivers to a residential address instead of a business address.

Fedex did not change the service, they added a surcharge. The home delivery surcharge was added because of the nature of the address you shipped to.  

[lamber9347]

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@rts_computers wrote:

im not a business, i have items around that i choose to sell, i dont want to incur expenses to sell something, that would be counter productive, i use boxes and bubble wrap i have in my shed or basement from previous purchases to reuse to ship stuff, if i was a business i can see purchasing a scale, but i google the weight of the item and add more for shipping materials,  and paypal even says "paypal -an ebay company" so they are the same company.  lastly i didnt say i didn't read the fee's i said it would be easier if it were more straight forward like they had set amount for each thing described in 1 page not having to scroll and click all the words "final value fee" insertion fee, blah blah, just give us totals,,,if you list an item for this much, its this much to list it, and if you sell it for this much we take this much,,,simple!! but have ranges .. 1-100$ is this...100-500 and so on, just to simplify things. and yes i know i need to come back here to update my tracking info if i buy it at the post office which would be silly to do since you save money buying it here, i was speaking about someone else as to why they MAY have done it, because someone accused them of being cheap and trying to save money

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Many people who sell online are also not a business. I am a seller and I only list things from my house. I recycle bubble wrap and boxes as well. I'm just like you in that respect and this is a very good way of cleaning your house of clutter while making some extra money. That's why I replied and am trying to offer you advice. Not buying a cheap scale, and $20 is nothing, because you think you can Google the weight obviously isn't working for you, hence your extra charges from Fed Ex. They are notorious for coming back afterwards to get more money from sellers who didn't charge correctly. How can you expect to ship an item without supplying the correct dimensions when you are the sender? 

You want to sell online, from the comfort of your home, but you don't want to learn the different tiers for selling or what the separate charges are for. You want everything simplified for you with just one price sheet. Well that's not how it works so I'm afraid you are out of luck there. You will either have to take the time to learn everything or continue to pay exorbitant prices on shipping after the fact for something you could have done for a lot less if you purchased a scale. Ball's in your court....

One last thing, eBay and PayPal are NOT the same company. Just because you say they are doesn't make it true. Try Google and you will soon see....

[rts_computers]

i just googled it it says they are SEPERATE ENTITIES BUT EBAY OWNS PAYPAL.... not sure why your being argumentative and you cant possibly know all the "shipping rules" without a handbook, i know ups charges by WEIGHT regardless of the size of the box, and post office has certain guidelines that you cant ship over a certain weight or box size, using a certain method, then they have flat rate as long as it fits in their box, etc etc,,,, sorry you know everything, but i assumed fedex went by weight too...doesnt change my initial post that it would be much easier to simplify the fee structure, to your resturant example, if you go into applebee's and look at the menu, imagine it saying..this dish comes with this, but if you dont want this and this deduct this much, but you can get it like this too., just add this much, or if you order over a certain amount there is a "sitting fee" or if your party is larger than 3 people there is a surcharge,,,,etc etc.  thats what i am saying here is ebay could make it much simpler by breaking it down into if you list an item for this much, this is what you pay, not seperate fee for everything,  just tell me...if i am selling an item and it goes for 100.00 im going to pay 10% commission to ebay plus 5.00 to list said item, BEFORE I HIT SUBMIT ON THE LISTING dont explain it to me before hand in the form of "fee structure" the avg person unlike you, wouldnt memorize every fee and have to constantly go back and forth to check...etc.