09-01-2023 07:28 PM
Is anyone aware that sellers are selling New items above retail? For example, it is common for sellers of books to purchase books at retail, only to sell them at a higher cost than retail. Any ideas????
09-02-2023 03:25 PM
What if the heart medication sells out in stores and a bunch of people are able to get it off eBay from Joe? They are so happy to pay $5 and grateful to Joe he has overpriced them so much so there was still some left in stock for them to buy. Maybe even that elderly person figures out how to use the internet so they can have the heart medication they need.
I sell a lot of discontinued makeup, some above retail if that matches comps... and I get feedback about how glad they are they were able to still find such and such item that isnt made any more.
If there was a national disaster and people came in and trucked in a bunch of water and charged for it and even charge a lot are they evil? You might think so...but if charging for water was not allowed than those people would not bother Trucking in the water at all and everybody would die of dehydration instead.
09-02-2023 03:33 PM
Hes batting a thousand with 'scalping' and 'gouging'..when neither term is correct for what he is complaining about.
09-02-2023 03:36 PM
@marcipolett0 wrote:What if there is a heart medication that people need? A store sells it for a $1.50 a pill. Then Joe-Make-A-Quick-Bucks comes along and buys all the pills then puts them on sale for $5.00. An elderly person does not use the internet or doesn't drive. Her only source of medication and information is from Joe. That is Ok with you? Hey, that's capitalism. Don't tell me that's different. It is the same reasoning.
That's completely different.
Ebay sellers cannot sell prescription drugs.
09-02-2023 03:55 PM
@az93 wrote:Scalping is not illegal. Once we had an extra season ticket, advertised it and sold it to a scalper who then resold it for even more money. That's scalping. I know this for sure because I asked the guy who was sitting next to me how he got that ticket.
Scalping is illegal in 17 U.S. states, the last time I counted. Or rather, in 17 states there are restrictions on selling event tickets for prices above the price printed on the ticket. The restrictions vary, of course. In some states a license is required to sell tickets. In other states, there is a maximum over the stated ticket price that may be charged. In some states, each municipality regulates the resale of tickets. Et cetera.
There is no federal law against scalping, but the 2016 BOTS Act prohibits the use of software to enable scalping, making it illegal to resell tickets obtained using bot technology. (BOTS stands for Better Online Ticket Sales)
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09-02-2023 04:03 PM
@albertabrightalberta wrote:
@marcipolett0 wrote:What if there is a heart medication that people need? A store sells it for a $1.50 a pill. Then Joe-Make-A-Quick-Bucks comes along and buys all the pills then puts them on sale for $5.00. An elderly person does not use the internet or doesn't drive. Her only source of medication and information is from Joe. That is Ok with you? Hey, that's capitalism. Don't tell me that's different. It is the same reasoning.
That's completely different.
Ebay sellers cannot sell prescription drugs.
And even if they could, as Bonjourami points out, they can't walk into a drugstore and buy up medicines for which they have no prescriptions.
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09-02-2023 04:31 PM
Ever notice that the 'outraged by' scalping or gouging threads are always about items that are very definitely wants not needs? And roughly translate to outraged that sellers aren't selling what I want for the price I'm willing to pay?
09-02-2023 06:04 PM
@bonjourami wrote:"Scalping" refers to selling event tickets,not book sales.
It's also stock market trading 'technique'.
09-02-2023 06:23 PM
@marcipolett0 wrote:What if there is a heart medication that people need? A store sells it for a $1.50 a pill. Then Joe-Make-A-Quick-Bucks comes along and buys all the pills then puts them on sale for $5.00. An elderly person does not use the internet or doesn't drive. Her only source of medication and information is from Joe. That is Ok with you? Hey, that's capitalism. Don't tell me that's different. It is the same reasoning.
First of all you should know that it is not necessary to send the same reply to each respondent over and over as we can all see your response when it first appears.
Others have already explained how your heart medication analogy does not work so we do not need to revisit that. You originally asked about books. There is nothing magical about the retail selling price of a new book. If it is popular enough then others may be able to resell it at a profit. Most books will go down in value so their selling price will depend simply on what someone is able to get for it.
09-02-2023 08:19 PM
@marcipolett0 wrote:What if there is a heart medication that people need? A store sells it for a $1.50 a pill. Then Joe-Make-A-Quick-Bucks comes along and buys all the pills then puts them on sale for $5.00. An elderly person does not use the internet or doesn't drive. Her only source of medication and information is from Joe. That is Ok with you? Hey, that's capitalism. Don't tell me that's different. It is the same reasoning.
Joe would not be able to buy more than his prescription allows.
09-02-2023 08:33 PM
You need to look up the definition of scalping...............
09-02-2023 10:44 PM
@marcipolett0 wrote:What if there is a heart medication that people need? A store sells it for a $1.50 a pill. Then Joe-Make-A-Quick-Bucks comes along and buys all the pills then puts them on sale for $5.00. An elderly person does not use the internet or doesn't drive. Her only source of medication and information is from Joe. That is Ok with you? Hey, that's capitalism. Don't tell me that's different. It is the same reasoning.
While your example is an extreme overstatement, this type of item can't even be sold on Ebay, so your story would not every happen here for that particular item. Prescription meds can not be sold on Ebay.
You are confusing Price Gouging with simple overpriced items.
There are laws in place about Price Gouging through times of natural disasters, Pandemics, etc.
What you are concerned about is overpriced items. As a consumer you are welcome to just bypass those listings and find what you need elsewhere. No one is forcing you or any other buyer from purchasing on this site.
You are going to be very disappointed when the Holiday Season arrives. Especially if you need to purchase any of the Hot Toys for the year. There has been many years that the manufacturers have underestimated what stock they would need for a particular item or items. So they become harder and harder to find before Christmas. When that happens some sellers have been able to locate some stock and their prices will rise way above what retail would be for the item. But no one or very few can find it in the stores due to being out of stock. The only hope they have is to find it online.
You seem to want to apply your theory to everything that is sold on the site. Not sure why.
You seem to think that because most don't agree with you that we are in favor of taking advantage of buyers. That absolutely is not the case. Most sellers are good, hard working people that are here to supply whatever it is they are selling to customers.
It is highly unlikely that any seller would survive here if they had to pay full retail for all their inventory. But by your standards you would expect that seller to sell the item for no more than full retail and just eat the costs of selling here. Not sure how that is fair. Sellers provide a service and there is no shame in wanting to be paid for our work.
If you have made the choice that you will not sell anything above full retail and you paid full retail for the NEW item. Then you will be PAYING your buyers to purchase from you. If that is what you want to do, that is your right.
BUT since you are new to selling, you might just learn some valuable things by opening up your mind and actually process what some are telling you. Again, NOT a soul here is condoning taking advantage of a buyer, EVER. There are however some things that will easily sell for over retail price.
I hope you will decide to try and learn from all the experienced sellers that have been trying to help you better understand this. However if your mind is closed and made up, there isn't much any of us can do to help you. You just need to decide if you want to be a short term seller or build yourself a little business here.
09-02-2023 10:46 PM
@monica-sells wrote:from books to heart medications.....seriously?
BTW: When "Joe-Make-A-Quick-Bucks" buys up all the inventory, the manufacturer drops the price to accomodate/increase sales (knowing they can beat Joes price)...in other words, they bury "Joe-Make-A-Quick-Bucks" and stick him with all the inventory he bought...forcing him to lower his price and decrease his profit margin
That's capitalism
no government controls
oh, and Joe is offering a personal service in your example
They are new to Ebay and don't understand that you can't even sell prescription items here. So their story wouldn't happen here.
And we should note that sellers with the mindset of Joe-Make-A-Quick-Buck don't last long on this site. They will end up damaging their seller stats and therefore the health of their selling account.
09-02-2023 10:49 PM
@toomuchstuffagain35 wrote:Ever notice that the 'outraged by' scalping or gouging threads are always about items that are very definitely wants not needs? And roughly translate to outraged that sellers aren't selling what I want for the price I'm willing to pay?
The OP hasn't said they were shopping for anything in particular. They mentioned books, but they sell some books.
09-03-2023 10:16 AM - edited 09-03-2023 10:18 AM
Are you describing the American pharmaceutical industry?
Here in Canada we get literal busloads of elderly Americans taking organized trips that culminate in purchases at our drugstores, because we have a single payer medical insurance system that makes that kind of gouging very difficult.
Your system is more like the dealer on the corner.
09-19-2023 12:16 AM
I don't normally say this but that's a dumb question and a false comparison.
There's a big difference between outbidding someone and the seller posting a price with a "take it or leave it" attitude. Bear in mind some states have anti-scalping laws and although this applies for tickets but there's precedence concerning laws being refocused on similar issues.