07-16-2023 06:55 PM - edited 07-16-2023 06:58 PM
This is what's going on with the draconian, insane IRS requirement for ebay to send far too many sellers a 1099-k form, which is also sent to the IRS.
If we sold more than $600 worth of anything during each year, it will be reported to the IRS and their system will treat it as reportable income. Even if you are selling at a loss, or reselling a used item of yours, and you won't legally be required to pay any tax on it. If you did not make a profit off of it., or your income is too low, then you won't owe anything. Yet this horriffic new Biden admin rule, tells the IRS that you do owe or that it should show on your tax form. You will then have to prove that you didn't make a profit.
This could be impossible for people who don't have a receipt, or are selling items that are 5, 10, 20, or 50 years old. No record may exist for what you paid for it, only what you sold it for.
This will be triggering the IRS system for God knows what, to send out a fake notice of discrepancy if your tax returns ( or by not filing), show something different from what they THINK they know about your income.
This is outrageous and detrimental, it is not a truthful way of informing the IRS at all.
Previously, before Biden's new regulation, the reporting threshold was $20,000 worth of online sales, and 200 transactions, before ebay had to send out a 1099-k to you and report it to the IRS.
So this recent change is just not workable at all, it is now being put in action since January 2023, and sellers can expect to receive a 1099-k if they have sold 600 bucks or more of household used items. Also, this will be reported to the IRS.
OUTRAGEOUS!
*********Now that there's a change of who controls congress, we all need to step up and call our Representatives and demand it return to what it was before. Or give us exemptions.
Give good reasons in your letter or call - such as, We are selling used items of our own , we aren't a business. we are just trying to get SOME of our money back by selling stuff we couldn't return to the store, etc.( be truthful of course) *********
12-26-2023 10:29 AM - edited 12-26-2023 10:32 AM
I am so happy, that this has now been changed due to so many people speaking out and contacting congress etc !
i am really thanking God because i prayed about it and so did a lot of people.
The future isn't 100 percent certain though, so i'm gonna keep praying. it's gone way too far already. !
12-26-2023 10:48 AM
The only thing that's been changed, is they decided to delay it another year.
Hopefully next year, they won't delay it again.
12-26-2023 12:14 PM
@themayqueen wrote:are you imagining that my post is about me? it 's about millions of people who are being hassled for no reason, it's part of the recent general legislation that also tried to surveil all of our banking transactions of any kind and literally EVERYTHING that's more than $600 accumulative, in a year. !!! plus the 1099's. You're really ok with that? .it's disturbing and pointless, at that level. And yes i often advocate for millions and have done so for decades. I've spoken with legislators as well.
--last time i looked, if it isn't used, then it's New; doesn't have to be brand new this year. i only put my best UNUSED vintage supplies up, I use the rest for my crafting , but I have to make it pay for itself. I use good descriptions, good disclosure, people don't complain.
You seem to assume that those that might receive a 1099K for $600 or so would then owe more taxes. That is simply not the case. In fact most if not all of those that have a low income [according to IRS] are likely to see NOT ADDITIONAL taxes needing to be paid once they take the costs away from that $600.
It is much to do about nothing. Low income people are highly likely to be just fine.
AGAIN, the transactions going into a bank account has NEVER been lowered to $600. That still sits at $10,000 before the bank has to report a transaction to the IRS. As I've explained in more detail before, with links to the CORRECT information for you, you are confusing two DIFFERENT things and presenting them as one.
12-26-2023 12:20 PM
"The reporting threshold for third party settlement organizations, which include payment apps and online marketplaces, was changed to $600 by the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021. The IRS announced a delay in implementing this change for tax year 2023, which covers tax returns generally filed in early 2024.
Although the Form 1099-K reporting threshold for 2023 is $20,000, companies could still send the form for totals over $600."
They changed it back to 20,000 for 2023 tax year.
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/understanding-your-form-1099-k
All marketplaces do NOT have to issue 1099Ks unless they are the Money Processor too. So if it is simply a marketplace that allows a different money processor to process payments, it is that Money Processor that is responsible for issuing the proper 1099Ks.
Why would a company send out 1099Ks for less than the threshold?? That is an added expense to that company that they don't have to incur.
For 2023 the threshold is like it has been in past years which is as you said the $20,000, but you forgot to mention it also must be for 200+ transactions. So someone that was paid $20,000 with 100 transactions would not get a 1099K per the IRS rule.
There is also several STATES that have their own requirements for a 1099K, many are less than the IRS threshold right now, so those will get issued if appropriate.
12-26-2023 12:23 PM
"I know, it's been EXTREMELY confusing. It's delayed til the end of Dec, and it then most likely changes to a higher amount than $600 according to them. ( like $5000) It's a battle being fought in Congress. So here's the direct link that tells you a lot more about it on the IRS website. "
Yet another assumption on your part. There has been no such battle for the reduction of the threshold in 2022 or 2023. IRS made the decision. They may have cleared it with the Congress, I simply don't know. But as far as I know there was no "battle".
12-26-2023 04:45 PM
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