is my handling charge being displayed in the displayed postage

[partsalot1]

If I choose to charge customers the discounted rate eBay has for USPS shipping is my handling charge reflected in the price shown to the buyer. 

So what I'm asking is if the discounted shipping rate is $2.89 and my handling charge is $.30 is $3.19 displayed for $2.89?

Because when I look at one of my listings it seems like the handling charges not included?

[fern*wood]

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@partsalot1 wrote:

your looking at it all wrong.  handling fee is for the cost of shipping materials only.  different depending on item. 

the fees from ebay and pay pal are built into the price of the item.  the price of the item is always the item plus shipping.  some do it as free shipping. some do it as item price plus shipping charge.  either way the shipping charge is still there and the fees are paid. so when calculating profit on each individual item  you have

item sold for price+ shipping cost = total sale

then

total sale - 13% fees-shipping cost-item cost= gross profit. 

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I could just as easily tell you that you are looking at it all wrong.  We just approach it differently.   I like to keep things simple and the math works out the same.  Instead of passing on the discount and then adding handling, it seems simpler to just leave the setting to charge the buyer retail and you don't have to worry about handling fees to cover your supplies.

[partsalot1]

I am sure there is an eBay law that prohibits that action and I know it is there for a good reason. 

If eBay wants to Close down an account that generates them ,on average, three thousand dollars a month in fees because I purchased my  item to see what the end result was and then immediately canceled that purchase  and put it back into my inventory then that's on them. 

If they are that foolish. I will be happy go someplace else. 

EBay employees add eBay management cannot be so robotic in their judgments on eBay regulations that intent is completely thrown from the process. It is very obvious my intent was not to wrongly profit from eBay or from a buyer. 

I don't care if I only netted them one dollar in fees every month. It would still be foolish to close down an account because of what I did. 

[buyselljack2016]

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@fern*wood wrote:

Why would you set your listings to pass on the discount to your buyers and then try to make it up with a handling fee?  Don't set it that way---especially since ebay takes their cut, unless you want to pay part of the shipping costs for all your buyers.

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FCP over 13 oz will show the buyer the shipping rate at Priority prices, so some sellers may want to pass along the online price to the buyer, so that the shipping shown does not deter sales.

[partsalot1]

not actually.  You told me why I had a handling charge (assuming I was re cooping ebay fees through a handling charge).

I explained why you were wrong about my handling charge.  I didnt tell you what you were doing. only what I was doing. I was merely stating you were wrong about my motives.  thats what you were looking at incorectly so I explained my full intent. 

[fern*wood]

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@buyselljack2016 wrote:

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@fern*wood wrote:

Why would you set your listings to pass on the discount to your buyers and then try to make it up with a handling fee?  Don't set it that way---especially since ebay takes their cut, unless you want to pay part of the shipping costs for all your buyers.

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FCP over 13 oz will show the buyer the shipping rate at Priority prices, so some sellers may want to pass along the online price to the buyer, so that the shipping shown does not deter sales.

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Yes, I'm aware of that, so I never enter a weight over 13 oz.  That works fine since 13 and up are the same cost now and if you don't enter 14 oz or higher it won't calculate as priority.

[partsalot1]

You seem to know about the shipping prices so I hope you will shed more light on thus subject.

how much is a 5oz first class package within my zone with a .20 handling  fee added? I have the discounted shipping charges displayed. 

because its displaying $4.59.  that seems high after the discount.

[fern*wood]

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@partsalot1 wrote:

not actually.  You told me why I had a handling charge (assuming I was re cooping ebay fees through a handling charge).

I explained why you were wrong about my handling charge.  I didnt tell you what you were doing. only what I was doing. I was merely stating you were wrong about my motives.  thats what you were looking at incorectly so I explained my full intent. 

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Good grief.  I saw what you stated your handling fee covered.  My point is the same, you don't have to add handling if you charge retail.  You seemed so upset about that handling fee, I was just offering an easy fix.

[escuintla]

Make your own numbers that help for you, not for your buyers, and add it to your price.

I've seen, before the new rates went into effect that for a music cassette some of my fellow sellers were charging $4.99 while I was giving free shipping. And most of the times I was cheaper. 

So, I don't give discounts of shipping. You buy 5 items, you pay for 5 items, 5 items I ship. 

[buyselljack2016]

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@fern*wood wrote:

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@buyselljack2016 wrote:

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@fern*wood wrote:

Why would you set your listings to pass on the discount to your buyers and then try to make it up with a handling fee?  Don't set it that way---especially since ebay takes their cut, unless you want to pay part of the shipping costs for all your buyers.

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FCP over 13 oz will show the buyer the shipping rate at Priority prices, so some sellers may want to pass along the online price to the buyer, so that the shipping shown does not deter sales.

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Yes, I'm aware of that, so I never enter a weight over 13 oz.  That works fine since 13 and up are the same cost now and if you don't enter 14 oz or higher it won't calculate as priority.

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Great solution:)

[buyselljack2016]

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@partsalot1 wrote:

You seem to know about the shipping prices so I hope you will shed more light on thus subject.

how much is a 5oz first class package within my zone with a .20 handling  fee added? I have the discounted shipping charges displayed. 

because its displaying $4.59.  that seems high after the discount.

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$4.59 is----------- retail rate + $0.20

You could save this link to USPS rates.

https://pe.usps.com/resources/PriceChange/January%202019%20-%20Notice123.pdf

[myangelandmyprincess]

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@buyselljack2016 wrote:

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@partsalot1 wrote:

You seem to know about the shipping prices so I hope you will shed more light on thus subject.

how much is a 5oz first class package within my zone with a .20 handling  fee added? I have the discounted shipping charges displayed. 

because its displaying $4.59.  that seems high after the discount.

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$4.59 is----------- retail rate + $0.20

You could save this link to USPS rates.

https://pe.usps.com/resources/PriceChange/January%202019%20-%20Notice123.pdf

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Yeah that one is showing retail rate plus .20 it’s not passing on the discount 

[partsalot1]

I can estimate the price my item needs to be to match prices after shipping is considered IF I know what the calculated shipping is.

do you have any idea why some are passing on the discount and others aren't?  

[myangelandmyprincess]

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@partsalot1 wrote:

I can estimate the price my item needs to be to match prices after shipping is considered IF I know what the calculated shipping is.

do you have any idea why some are passing on the discount and others aren't?  

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I really don't.  I don't have any experience with passing on the discount so i don't know the ends and outs of it.   

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[berserkerplanet]

Handling fee is included in the price shown to buyers whether you are charging retail or commercial rates.

Your item 332905831626 is proof of that - shows $4.63 FCP to me in zone 8 which is the $4.33 discounted commercial 12oz cost plus 30¢ handling.

Item 232615094215 "GENUINE Stihl br600,br550 carburetor 1282 120 0606 OEM NEW " that disneyshopper mentioned with $3 shipping does not have calculated shipping, so handling fee doesn't apply.

Item 232615106103 is showing calculated retail FCP rates with a 25¢ handling fee.

If you changed from offering retail rates to offering discounted rates at some time in the past, and some of your listings are still showing retail rates, I'd say it's because they haven't been revised. When you switch the site setting to pass USPS discounts to buyers it only apply to listings that are revised or are created after the change - it won't automatically propagate into existing listings, and you have a lot of GTC listings from what I saw.

Almost positive that an old GTC listing that you didn't touch after making the change would still have the old "don't pass discounts to buyers" setting in it and will charge retail rates, even months later as it rolls over every 30 days.

Not sure about non-GTC listings that are relisted after expiration, but I'm guessing those would reflect the site setting change when relisted. As would sell similars, or fresh new listings from scratch.

However, that item 232615106103 that is showing retail rates was revised Jan 4, Feb 7, and Feb 24, so not sure why it is still showing retail rates.

Did you change the site setting to pass discounts to buyers? If so, when?

[partsalot1]

yes i did but its been less than 2 weeks.