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I am trying to get a catalog/export of ebay's epids (eBay product ID). Specifically for video game products.

 

When I asked the basic eBay seller customer service they said they didn't have such a thing and directed me to the Developers Program. They stated that they would be able to help.

 

I signed up and realized in order to contact the Developers Program support I would need to pay the "premium support" service.

 

So a couple of questions:

1) Does anyone know if definitively they will have this list and/or catalog for me? I don't wish to try just to find out they won't, and I'm out of money.

2) Does anyone just have this list themselves, and would be friendly enough to share?

 

Thank you for your time!

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Presumably they are telling you that you need join the eBay developers program, then you could code software making queries against the database to get the ID's you're seeking.  Usually API's limit the amount of data they will return as well, its not like you're going to run one query and have the API return every single video game ID or UPC etc in the database, that generally require many many queries, filtering them via automation and of course changing the query data to get more results.  I am not all too familiar with eBay programming API but odd's are trying get a comprehensive list of what you're asking is not possible without considerable programming.

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I seriously doubt Ebay will help you at all with what you want. 

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I think the ePID idea went away along with eBay's idea of recreating the entire site on a catalog system (similar to Amazon).


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Have a look at this page:

 

https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/listings/creating-managing-listings/listing-item-product-details-c...

 

Especially these comments:

 

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I very much doubt eBay can or will provide you with a list of all products currently in the Catalog.

 

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"...UPC, ISBN, part number, or the product name..."  That's what I figured - no ePID similar to the ASIN system ever evolved.


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@valuepricedgames 

 

From what I've read from other sellers (as well as from eBay employees from many years ago), the idea of an itemized eBay catalog gradually evaporated over the course of time, as more and more sellers began demonstrating to eBay that such a catalog of product identification numbers (matched to individual products) was simply impossible, due to the realities of how UPC, ISBN and other manufacturer identification numbers are created, deleted and recycled.

 

Each UPC and ISBN number is composed of a limited number of digits, which are individually broken down to include a location code for the manufacturer, as well as a special identification code specific to each manufacturer, plus a special identification number for each individual item (or group of items), plus additional digits to denote other identifications.  In other words, inside each UPC and ISBN number, there are only FINITE numbers available for the items themselves.

 

Obviously, for larger manufacturers who produce thousands of new items annually, the limitations of the UPC and ISBN numbers become a liability; thus, on a regular basis, scores of UPC and ISBN numbers are regularly deleted, and just as regularly recycled to other, newer products (many of which may be totally unrelated to the previous item).

 

For example:  For nearly 13 years, I was employed at a huge national bookseller chain; and, every couple of weeks, several of us would be handed a stack of computer print-out sheets, each sheet holding over 50 ISBN numbers which the publisher was deleting.  We then had to hunt down all of the items matching those ISBN numbers, and ship them back to the manufacturers, where the items would either be destroyed or shipped out to cut-rate wholesalers. 

 

So, for example, I might be responsible for locating over 600 different ISBN numbers every two weeks -- or over 1300 each year.  Multiply that by about a dozen other employees, also hunting down their own stacks of "deletes" -- and you're talking about over 150,000 deleted ISBN numbers each year!

 

Simultaneously, the manufacturer would delete all those ISBN numbers from their catalog, as would we.  A few months later, the ISBNs would reappear -- but on entirely different items.

 

Hopefully you might now be able to understand why a specific eBay product catalog is simply unfeasible:  considering the inherently flexible nature of UPC and ISBN numbers (as well as other manufacturer identification numbers), such a catalog is not only improbable, but wholly and unnaturally impossible.

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@1786davycrockett  That's a good summary of why the catalog system just would not work here, even if Griff pleaded that we MUST 'embrace it' or eBay would founder.  Trying to retcon an already flourishing site, particularly one as anarchic as eBay, into a catalog is a lot different than Amazon's catalog growth which happened organically with the site.


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"So, for example, I might be responsible for locating over 600 different ISBN numbers every two weeks -- or over 1300 each year."

 

Whoops -- bad math!  Not 1300 -- but 15,000!

 

And thus not 150,000 deleted ISBN numbers each year -- but 180,000 each year!

 

That's a LOT of deleted ISBN numbers!

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Thank you, everyone, for all your help. I am going to suggest to the others that we maybe look at just using UPCs or some other way of hooking up to the catalog. It is so our products can be automatically repriced against other products also attached to the catalog.

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@valuepricedgames wrote:

Thank you, everyone, for all your help. I am going to suggest to the others that we maybe look at just using UPCs or some other way of hooking up to the catalog. It is so our products can be automatically repriced against other products also attached to the catalog.


If your goal is using software to auto-price @valuepricedgames, then UPC is what you need to work off, not the epiD.

 

UPC and MPN are how eBay ties listings to an ePID.

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