eBay will move to a new "product based" shopping experience on a large scale this year to

[timemachine777]

to replace the current listings based experience - and it will become the only way to shop on eBay, according to the company's CEO Devin Wenig. From ecommercebytes.

https://www.ecommercebytes.com/C/blog/blog.pl?/pl/2018/2/1519091217.html

"But Wenig described the biggest change coming to the site as a move from a listings based marketplace to a product based marketplace."

All you small sellers that don't sell new items. You can kiss your eBay business goodbye. New item small sellers, if you can't price compete with the big boys, your stuff will never be seen, until they all run out of inventory. Best price on everything on the site will be seen exclusively, the way the site will be laid out.

[ted_200]

Here is a partial list of some of the things I've bought over the years:

1. Several hundred pieces of McCoy pottery for my wife (some pieces exceeding $500 ea.)

2. 1955 Roberto Clemente Rookie baseball card ($2500)

3. At least 1/2 Dz. $20 gold pieces at an average of $2,000 each.

4. Four or five $10 gold pieces at least $1,000 each.

5. A Dz. PCGS graded CC morgan dollars at least $500 each.

There is a lot more also. 

I am ONE person.

And in all that time, I'm betting you've bought no more than one toaster oven.   Mass consumer retail just doesn't obsessively buy dozens or hundreds of the same class of item every year, with the possible exception of movies or video games.   

[chipper01work]

Just in baseball cards, right now, there are 4000 sold listings that sold for more than $1000. And more than 200 that sold for more than $6700

[emerald40]

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@vintagepatternspluswrote:

Do you mean Etsy?

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If you think search is hard on ebay, then you are going to hate the above.

[chipper01work]

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@ted_200wrote:

Here is a partial list of some of the things I've bought over the years:

1. Several hundred pieces of McCoy pottery for my wife (some pieces exceeding $500 ea.)

2. 1955 Roberto Clemente Rookie baseball card ($2500)

3. At least 1/2 Dz. $20 gold pieces at an average of $2,000 each.

4. Four or five $10 gold pieces at least $1,000 each.

5. A Dz. PCGS graded CC morgan dollars at least $500 each.

There is a lot more also. 

I am ONE person.

And in all that time, I'm betting you've bought no more than one toaster oven.   Mass consumer retail just doesn't obsessively buy dozens or hundreds of the same class of item every year, with the possible exception of movies or video games.   

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Yeah and most of those things wern't bought here. I made a toasted cheese sandwich in a $250 Breville toaster oven about an hour ago. That toaster oven came to my house wearing a smile on the box.

[ted_200]

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@emerald40wrote:

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@vintagepatternspluswrote:

Do you mean Etsy?

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If you think search is hard on ebay, then you are going to hate the above.

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Personally, it drives me nuts.  But it must work for someone, people are finding and buying my stuff over there.

[classicgadget]

There is no way ebay is giving up their business in collectible, vintage, antique, used, pre-owned, OOAK items. On these threads we talk about the small seller. In every category there are sellers that are medium to large and doing good business. Look up some stores such as celebrityowned (pre-owned high end name brand clothing and accessories), replacements (vintage, collectible and replacement glass and pottery) and bedazzled (vintage and pre-owned jewelry). There are hundreds of these large prospering sites. There is no way ebay is giving up all of this business. Here is another point. Instead of looking at specific stores that are doing well, look at some specific categories. Recently I listed a large lot of Mattell Monster High Dolls. Try a search for "Mattell Monster High Lot". There are about 3200 active listings. There are over 6000 sold listings in the last 90 days. This is a very specific sub-category. Baseball cards, comics, autographs, coins, stamps, etc. There is no way ebay is giving up all of this business. As for the small sellers, we just have to go with the system. One thing is to keep your store clean. If it does not sell then mark it down, give it to a friend or "redonate" it. As for auctions, ebay has made some moves to enhance the perception of this part of their business. One way is by working with Sotheby's and other high end auction houses that sell on ebay. If ebay does move away from all of this then another site or sites will step up and fill in the void. There is too much money here.

[emerald40]

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@ted_200wrote:

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@emerald40wrote:

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@vintagepatternspluswrote:

Do you mean Etsy?

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If you think search is hard on ebay, then you are going to hate the above.

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I tried it for fine jewelry and never sold much.

It was only after I tried searching that I realized why.  You cannot filter out words like you can on ebay.  If you put in diamond, all the moissanite show up along with it.  But the worst part is a lot of it is custom jewelry that they will make for you.  You cannot filter that out unless you filter by price.

But the worst is my toy search,  Every time I put in a new title, searches go back to the default, so I have to constantly change them back.

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[chipper01work]

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@chipper01workwrote:

Just in baseball cards, right now, there are 4000 sold listings that sold for more than $1000. And more than 200 that sold for more than $6700

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And that doesn't take into account the other 1,900,000 sold baseball cards in the completed listings. There are probably at least 100 million dollars worth of just baseball cards in the completed listings at the moment. 

[timemachine777]

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@d-k_treasureswrote:

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@nowthatsjustduckywrote:

I am guessing he can't get it through his pointy head that if he does achieve his objective and becomes just like every other ecommerce site out there, eBay will have nothing to distinguish itself from the already established players in that arena and will wither into true irrelevance?

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This why I ONLY list auctions on here, since it's pretty much the only online auction site that allows regular people to run them.

Anything fixed price I list is not on here. Why would it be, when the other site is taking off and is 1/3 the fees? Antiques/vintage do very well over there, especially toys. 

If they do proceed with this foolish idea and expand it into the antiques/vintage items, there will be no one here to sell them, and no reason for some of us to even search here except for bargains at auction - provided we can find the listings, anyway.

And just focusing on cheap chinese junk and NIB items available anywhere else, what future is there in that? Bleak, if any.

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I don't really understand the reasoning behind wanted to get rid of used/vintage. I can't understand why there can't be room for both. I'm just one person and I have spent into six figures here over the years and very little of that has been on new items. Here is a partial list of some of the things I've bought over the years:

1. Several hundred pieces of McCoy pottery for my wife (some pieces exceeding $500 ea.)

2. 1955 Roberto Clemente Rookie baseball card ($2500)

3. At least 1/2 Dz. $20 gold pieces at an average of $2,000 each.

4. Four or five $10 gold pieces at least $1,000 each.

5. A Dz. PCGS graded CC morgan dollars at least $500 each.

There is a lot more also. 

I am ONE person. Do a search of just baseball cards in the completed listings and sort by price highest first, then answer this question: How many made in China cell phone cases do you have to sell to make that revenue? When you are done with baseball cards do the same with these searches:

Steampunk

Machine Age

Mid Century Modern

Western Electric

and on and on.

eBay is making a TON of money from used/collectible items. It just doesn't add up.

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That's because Wenig wants it that way. He's the CEO for right now, unless he get's dethroned by the board of dirs, or an activist investor like Carl Ichan comes in and get's him kicked to the curb, like Ichan did to Donahue.

[timemachine777]

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@classicgadgetwrote:

There is no way ebay is giving up their business in collectible, vintage, antique, used, pre-owned, OOAK items. On these threads we talk about the small seller. In every category there are sellers that are medium to large and doing good business. Look up some stores such as celebrityowned (pre-owned high end name brand clothing and accessories), replacements (vintage, collectible and replacement glass and pottery) and bedazzled (vintage and pre-owned jewelry). There are hundreds of these large prospering sites. There is no way ebay is giving up all of this business. Here is another point. Instead of looking at specific stores that are doing well, look at some specific categories. Recently I listed a large lot of Mattell Monster High Dolls. Try a search for "Mattell Monster High Lot". There are about 3200 active listings. There are over 6000 sold listings in the last 90 days. This is a very specific sub-category. Baseball cards, comics, autographs, coins, stamps, etc. There is no way ebay is giving up all of this business. As for the small sellers, we just have to go with the system. One thing is to keep your store clean. If it does not sell then mark it down, give it to a friend or "redonate" it. As for auctions, ebay has made some moves to enhance the perception of this part of their business. One way is by working with Sotheby's and other high end auction houses that sell on ebay. If ebay does move away from all of this then another site or sites will step up and fill in the void. There is too much money here.

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Wenig would beg to differ based on all his interviews since he became CEO. He claims that non new products is now less than 20% of eBay's business, and all his changes are what's been making it shrink, and it will continue to shrink. 

They will sabotage this part of eBay until their is such a small community left, that he will be able to say that the revenue doesn't support the operations of these categories any longer.  They did it with Half.com. eBay intentionally hyper inflated fees to drive off most sellers, and also did other stuff to drive them away, and then told the remaining members that they were shutting the site down.

They killed off an asset instead of selling it. Does that make any sense whatsoever? The only thing I can think of is that they didn't want to sell the tech with the site, which makes the site then worthless without it.

[nowthatsjustducky]

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@chipper01workwrote:

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@vintagepatternspluswrote:

Do you mean Etsy?

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I mean it would be great if we all go to the same place if eBay no longer wants us here. Where the sellers of vintage go is where the buyers will go. Someplace needs to be "THE" place to go for buyers and sellers if eBay no longer wants to be that place. It will be exponentially more successful if all are in one place rather than scattered about, wherever that is. 

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Etsy for vintage, and eCrater for everything else.  I bet EC's owner would love to see a concerted effort by a large group of determined sellers working on building up his platform.  🙂

[vintagepatternsplus]

Many good business went out of business because of bad management! 

[vintagepatternsplus]

Yes, If Ebay will kill my store I will have to go to Etsy.

[timemachine777]

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@vintagepatternspluswrote:

Many good business went out of business because of bad management! 

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Never embrace complacency, and never forget your roots.

[palmbeachclosets]

As a buyer, i love searching through all the beautiful handbags here (new and used).   How are they going to know how used or new i want my bag?  Sometimes if a bag retails for $300 and there's a cheaper used one available with minimal repairs needed, that's the one i want.  As a seller, I would think this may make it difficult to research comps.   

And speaking of buyer experience, I just typed a search on my mobile phone for "Gucci envelope clutch bag" and the results were 124 items and I kid you not, ALL but a handful were fake counterfeit items.  If they change which items are seen, I do hope they take the time to figure out who the good honest sellers are.  Also, if they hide listings, then they shouldn't charge for a store subscription.