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berserkerplanet · ‎11-29-2017

It's 11:05pm Pacific Time on Wed 11/29/17 here in Sacramento, CA.

Just went to print an eBay shipping label, and apparently eBay thinks it's tomorrow already.

I thought eBay operates on Pacific time. Is that not the case for eBay shipping labels? Based on Mountain Time? Or yet another "oopsie"?

nawlinsron2 · ‎11-29-2017

Apparently, sometime after 5 PM PST, the system knows the closest possible ship date is the next day, so that's the choice offered.

berserkerplanet · ‎11-30-2017

My issue is with the terminology.

When it's 4pm here, it defaults to the next day's date and (correctly) calls it tomorrow, but current day's date is still an option (and called today)

As you can see from the screenshot above, at 11pm it is calling actual tomorrow today. It wasn't today for another 57 minutes.

I call another coding bug.

311revolution · ‎11-30-2017

It doesn't work that way. It just means you are too late for business at 11pm for the day, they will let you print postage for tomorrow, which is the soonest ship going out available...

berserkerplanet · ‎11-30-2017

11pm or 9pm or 6:01pm - the next day's date is not today. That indicates code written by a non-American-English speaker or someone ignoring the subtleties.

(Similar to something I've seen elsewhere either in eBay messaging or here in the forums - "You have 1 new messages". Branching and using the string "message" instead of "messages" when the new message count is exactly 1 (not 0 and not 2 or more) is 3rd grade programming, yet there it be).

I have no problem with not presenting today's date as available as a label date - starting at exactly 5:59pm Pacific Time for me (might be even later for others, and eBay has screwed that up in the past).

But don't label tomorrow's date with the word "Today" - it is semantically incorrect, especially when I am operating on Pacific time and everything eBay is on Pacific time.

johnrj1226 · ‎11-30-2017

On the little receipt that you get when you print the lable you will see the lable print date as 11/29/2017 assuming you print it before midnite. And the ship date is the next business day that you can possibly ship the package.

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berserkerplanet · ‎11-30-2017

Nope. Not in this case. eBay thought 11pm was tomorrow already.

The "Today" label was printed at 11:21pm Pacific Time on 11/29/17 and shows:

kattinsanity · ‎11-30-2017

Maybe that's Pitney Bowes time? Does the GMT maybe mean Mountain Time?

gracieallen01 · ‎11-30-2017

@berserkerplanet wrote:
11pm or 9pm or 6:01pm - the next day's date is not today. That indicates code written by a non-American-English speaker or someone ignoring the subtleties.

(Similar to something I've seen elsewhere either in eBay messaging or here in the forums - "You have 1 new messages". Branching and using the string "message" instead of "messages" when the new message count is exactly 1 (not 0 and not 2 or more) is 3rd grade programming, yet there it be).

I have no problem with not presenting today's date as available as a label date - starting at exactly 5:59pm Pacific Time for me (might be even later for others, and eBay has screwed that up in the past).

But don't label tomorrow's date with the word "Today" - it is semantically incorrect, especially when I am operating on Pacific time and everything eBay is on Pacific time.

Well, for what it's worth, I do know what you are saying.

With ebay, it is sort of like their 'policies'. "Listen to what I mean, not what I say".

I think it comes with the 'out-sourced' territory.

Not saying 'NO' doesn't mean 'YES'.

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labratdolls · ‎11-30-2017

@kattinsanity wrote:
Maybe that's Pitney Bowes time? Does the GMT maybe mean Mountain Time?

Greenwich Mean Time. The clock is in London. GMT is still widely used as the standard time against which all the other time zones in the world are referenced.

kattinsanity · ‎11-30-2017

Thank you~~I never heard of that before.

berserkerplanet · ‎11-30-2017

No GMT is Greenwich Mean Time (England) which is currently 8 hours ahead of my time here in California.

Which makes no sense, when I checked another label from Mon 4/27 printed at 4:03 PM, which would be 12:03AM GMT (the next day). It shows a Print date of 11/27/17 (which is wrong with the GMT consideration - should show 11/28/17) and a ship date of 11/27/17.

Thinking about my original issue in light of this I think maybe eBay is still messed up with the 1 hour shift from Daylight Saving time. I can only check labels back until 11/5 when the time changed (otherwise it gets even more confusing), and I don't see this issue.

I wish I had started the label at 10:59pm instead of 11:03 pm. That might show if the DS hour is the problem here. I suspect at 10:59 everything would have been ok and the label page would have said 11/30/17 TOMORROW, but at 11:01pm, ebay thought (incorrectly that it was 12:01am) and labeled it as 11/30/17 TODAY.

d-k_treasures · ‎11-30-2017

@berserkerplanet wrote:
No GMT is Greenwich Mean Time (England) which is currently 8 hours ahead of my time here in California.

Which makes no sense, when I checked another label from Mon 4/27 printed at 4:03 PM, which would be 12:03AM GMT (the next day). It shows a Print date of 11/27/17 (which is wrong with the GMT consideration - should show 11/28/17) and a ship date of 11/27/17.

Thinking about my original issue in light of this I think maybe eBay is still messed up with the 1 hour shift from Daylight Saving time. I can only check labels back until 11/5 when the time changed (otherwise it gets even more confusing), and I don't see this issue.

I wish I had started the label at 10:59pm instead of 11:03 pm. That might show if the DS hour is the problem here. I suspect at 10:59 everything would have been ok and the label page would have said 11/30/17 TOMORROW, but at 11:01pm, ebay thought (incorrectly that it was 12:01am) and labeled it as 11/30/17 TODAY.

I think you are correct, and that also explains the 'Ship by' and other dates ebay makes sure sellers see ..........

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johnrj1226 · ‎11-30-2017

https://greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/time-zones/

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luckythewinner · ‎11-30-2017

@berserkerplanet wrote:
11pm or 9pm or 6:01pm - the next day's date is not today. That indicates code written by a non-American-English speaker or someone ignoring the subtleties.

What does someone's native language have to do with their programming skills?