10-27-2023 12:23 PM
I make custom costumes. I need custom measurements to make most of my items. Sometimes the buyer does not send the info right away. Sometimes not ever and I eventually cancel and refund.
I found out this month that these activities may have been putting me in a below standard category and costing me in fees 6% of the total sale
Around Oct 14 I noticed an extremely high fee charge in the order details of one of my transactions as I was printing the page (I only noticed because it was a Denmark registered buyer and DID YOU KNOW ebay will charge you like $2 for that? I DIDN'T and I guess just $2 on top of 6% gets your attention) and that started me down a path of realization that they were charging me an additional 6% for being below standard for those late shipments.
But I got the email stating I was slipping back in Sept and I went to see what was going and phoned and wrote and supposedly had the defects removed after explaining all that about the hats. Yet my account still fell into below standard and the charge ensued (me unwitting until Oct 15th).
I would love to change the system somehow. Make them aware of sellers like myself and that there is a missed demographic they are hurting instead of growing
I would like a refund for the 6% they stole from me over this last month, the busiest month of my year no less (as I stated I make costumes and it's freakin halloween time)
I feel so wronged. I'm extremely customer focused. I'm being penalized for what?
I literally bring people to this website who find my items in searches. Ebay should be paying ME to sell here
So the kicker:
when I found out about the 21% being charged for every sale I quickly cancelled all the transactions that were in my hub and closed my shop. I was SO MAD. I did make it up to all those buyers who I just did the deal on my other ebay account for 15%.
And can we talk about THAT?
Stupid me was thinking it was still 12% or something. 12% was Barely acceptable so you know 15% is bugging me out
You may have guessed I don't pay much attention to the policies changing around me.
Well cancelling all those items put me in below standard again. I feel like there is no way out. The guy on the phone says I have to wait it out and they will never refund. I don't find that is a good compromise. I want it all back, plus an apology, and a policy change.
Defects should only be due to customer complaint. and THEN I want all the sellers who DO get complaints NARU'd.
I'm Sick of this site. As a seller AND a buyer
I just want a venue on which I can sell my costumes. Why does it have to be so gut wrenching?
Yes, I am already at Bonanza and Etsy. But this is where I started in 99 and it makes me really sad to leave it behind. Will I ever be able to delete all these years of data?
10-27-2023 12:28 PM
@costumeparts wrote:
I just want a venue
ebay ceased being a "venue" years and years ago
10-27-2023 12:31 PM
@costumeparts wrote:
Even though my business model is highly incompatible Ebay's marketplace the way they micromanage it. Mismanage it? I still tried to make it work.
Good for you for trying to make it work, A for effort, eBay didn't feel or try the same, and won't.
10-27-2023 12:42 PM - edited 10-27-2023 12:46 PM
eBay wants sellers that do not "cancel" transactions.
eBay feels that "cancelled" transactions result in a poor shopping venue for buyers.
eBay wants the venue to have buyers. eBay makes money when buyers buy.
Does not matter if "your " cancellations did not cause buyer distress. eBay does not have time/manpower/desire to review each and every "cancelled" transaction to view the particulars.
The "defects" are based on the reason chosen to cancel. Some reasons are coded to cause "defects".
Time was "defects" resulted in suspension. Instead, eBay chose to apply a penalty fee and allow for improvement to compensate eBay for loss of FVF revenue due to "perceived poor performance".
eBay will never meet your demands 😐 You will meet the standards set in eBay policy, or part ways.
10-27-2023 12:47 PM
eBay charges a fee for international transactions if you are not enrolled in EIS.
Why does eBay need to apologize to you?
You cancelled transactions which put you in this predicament.
Not knowing or not paying attention to the policies on seller performance is not an excuse. Defects are never due to customer complaints it’s on your performance as a seller.
Sorry but eBay’s seller performance ratings are what all of us sellers have to follow.
10-27-2023 12:49 PM
We as sellers do not dictate policy. Not saying I like what eBay does, just that it is what it is.
10-27-2023 12:53 PM
Hey @costumeparts . If you decide to continue with eBay it will be an uphill battle to climb out of Below Standard rating and try to prevent your account from getting permanently suspended due to seller performance.
If you're making custom items, you must use an appropriate handling time to give yourself enough time to create. eBay requires sellers ship within their handling time and allows sellers to select a window as long as 40 biz days (that's approx 8 weeks) for things like custom orders.
Do not cancel transactions unless buyer requests or unless you absolutely have to. eBay takes out of stock / seller initiated cancellations very seriously.
Read more about seller performance standards here:
https://www.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-policies/seller-performance-policy?id=4347
Keep up with your seller performance ratings here:
https://sellerstandards.ebay.com/dashboard
As for the international fee that was charged, keep up with selling fees here:
https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/fees-credits-invoices/selling-fees?id=4822
10-27-2023 12:53 PM
You can start your own web site and run it the way you want.
10-27-2023 12:58 PM - edited 10-27-2023 12:59 PM
Ebay owes me an apology Because I have 3 emails on Sept 27 stating that the defects were removed and I have nothing to worry about.
10-27-2023 02:54 PM
ebooksdiva it was not an international transaction. the item was shipping to TEXAS. I only learned during the phone call with an ebay rep that they added the charge simply because the buyer was REGISTERED in Denmark.
It's the shipping late that caused the issue, not cancelled orders, that only sealed my fate when I closed my store
I'm not making ANY excuses
The point is to figure out a way to CHANGE POLICY. Nobody ever has any help to make progress. Just take it or leave it.
And again, they told me everything was fine on the 27th so they owe me an apology and a refund
Your whole post was useless. WHO is upvoting it? you must have a few other IDs going.
10-27-2023 03:01 PM
@costumeparts wrote:It's the shipping late that caused the issue, not cancelled orders, that only sealed my fate when I closed my store
I'm not making ANY excuses
The point is to figure out a way to CHANGE POLICY.
You set your own handling time which, as mentioned above, can be as long as 40 biz days. eBay's current policy allows you the freedom of up to 2 months to ship custom orders, but it's up to you to set the handling time needed when creating your listings.
How long do you need for creating custom orders? If it's longer than 2 months then eBay's handling time policy (which was changed last year and extended by 2 weeks / 10 biz days) is not the right fit for your business.
Why did you set a handling time that was shorter than the time it would take you to fill orders?
10-27-2023 03:01 PM
What handling time are you using in your listings?
10-27-2023 03:34 PM
Just a few thoughts on your predicament...
A) Consider changing your handling time to 30 days, which is the max.
B) I just spoke to Vivek at eBay and he said that if your customer doesn't respond to your emails, you can cancel the transaction and say that buyer didn't pay. You can also use that reason if they did pay. Then you can refund anything that may be due the buyer. Don't put out of stock or anything that will affect you as a seller.
C) Consider a more custom seller platform, in addition to Etsy and Bonanza, like your own website, or look into Airtasker.
Seems you have a heavy heart about leaving here so try my first two suggestions first.
Good luck to you!
10-27-2023 03:39 PM
a) Max is 40 business days. eBay extended it last year.
b) You cannot cancel with the reason buyer did not pay if the buyer paid. The option will not appear. The CS rep you spoke with sounds misinformed in more ways than one. You cannot cancel just because a buyer does not respond to your messages. Don't risk your account on that bad advice.
10-27-2023 04:04 PM - edited 10-27-2023 04:05 PM
@wastingtime101 wrote:a) Max is 40 business days. eBay extended it last year.
b) You cannot cancel with the reason buyer did not pay if the buyer paid. The option will not appear. The CS rep you spoke with sounds misinformed in more ways than one. You cannot cancel just because a buyer does not respond to your messages. Don't risk your account on that bad advice.
It seems though that if a buyer does not respond to requests for information to complete a bespoke order that's not on the seller and they should not have to cancel for out of stock.
ETA: It doesn't seem that any of the cancellation reasons really fit - eBay has never seemed a particularly good venue for custom items simply because of its structure.