04-11-2018 07:25 PM
Look at these stats, and do the percentages.
It's really sad that eBay allows sellers like this to exist on their site. While, at the same time, picking on small sellers who have had a couple return requests within a few hundred sales...over more than a year.
04-11-2018 07:41 PM
965 negatives out of almost 57,000 isn’t actually that bad. Less than 2% of their feedback is negative (I think). And it all comes down to this—that seller makes more
money for eBay then the little guy does.
04-11-2018 07:48 PM
Well, the feedback percentage that would show next to the seller's id would be somewhere around 98.3%.
56698/(56698 + 965) = 98.326%
Even that isn't quite right, because eBay subtracts duplicate feedback from the same member from the total number of positives. I'm not willing to weed out those duplicates, but they could also change the percentage. (Your own statistics, for example, show 219 positive feedback comments, but only 198 of those are used to compute your feedback percentage.)
I've bought from sellers with a worse feedback percentage and had a perfectly normal transaction. I read the negative (and neutral) feedback comments to see what the buyers said, and to also see how the seller responded, and make a judgement from there.
Anywho, that being said, I probably wouldn't buy from this seller, but mainly because it looks like they're a huge seller who may trade in trinkets from China. Am I right?
04-11-2018 08:14 PM
The 716 neutral feedback left by buyers would also carry some weight & influence me when deciding if should buy from this particular seller.
04-11-2018 08:29 PM
yeah, but maybe he/she has straight 4.9's or 5.0's?
04-11-2018 08:37 PM
@byrd69er wrote:Look at these stats, and do the percentages.
It's really sad that eBay allows sellers like this to exist on their site. While, at the same time, picking on small sellers who have had a couple return requests within a few hundred sales...over more than a year.
How does eBay "pick on" small (however you define that) sellers? Return rates just like feedback percentages are not used for any Seller Performance metric.
As far as that particular seller, if they are one of usual from China (that I frequently buy from) a significant portion of the negs are from buyers who expect their $2 with free shipping widget to show up in a week and/or they think their $2 with free shipping widget should be of as high quality as a shipped from the USA alternative that sells for $30 + $5 shipping.
04-11-2018 08:41 PM - edited 04-11-2018 08:44 PM
@byrd69er wrote:Look at these stats, and do the percentages.
It's really sad that eBay allows sellers like this to exist on their site. While, at the same time, picking on small sellers who have had a couple return requests within a few hundred sales...over more than a year.
I see this kind of thing all the time and worse (much worse) in the book category, which I sell in with this account.
What eBay cares about with larger sellers like this is the 56698 positives per year. With larger sellers like this eBay looks at those 1681 negatives and neutrals as," just noise and the cost of doing business".
Most of the time the negs. and the neutrals for the larger sellers in the book category are for items that they do not actually have in stock, because a large portion of their business model is dependant on drop shipping from other smaller online book sellers, and often times they get caught with their pants down for not having the item (book) in stock and the other online book sellers; which they count on for fulfilling their orders, have already sold that particular book.
But small book sellers like myself who have no negs. and or neutrals, and actually care about the book trade, as well as the individual books that they sell, and the customers who buy those books, will almost always get get placed below larger sellers like this on the new product pages or within the default "Best Match" search results.
04-11-2018 09:04 PM - edited 04-11-2018 09:06 PM
Here's another seller that really defies any rational reason as to why they are allowed to continue, it's been going on for months. The seller sells laptops and most of the negs are for 2 things;
Refuses to ship telling the buyer they didn't get enough money, or many other excuses.
Cancels order after buyer pays.
Their feedback rating is 61.4!
They are still listing over 2 hundred laptops and add new listings daily.
Scary what ebay allows. Complaints from buyers said ebay does nothing.
04-11-2018 09:23 PM - edited 04-11-2018 09:24 PM
But wait, there's more!
-Member for over a decade.
-They have an ebay store.
-Their ebay name is a dot com address,
which leads to their off ebay private website complete with telephone number, email, and hours of business.
Why are they here!
04-11-2018 10:30 PM
@newnewnewmann wrote:Here's another seller that really defies any rational reason as to why they are allowed to continue, it's been going on for months. The seller sells laptops and most of the negs are for 2 things;
Refuses to ship telling the buyer they didn't get enough money, or many other excuses.
Cancels order after buyer pays.
Their feedback rating is 61.4!
It's worse than that!
The formula is: Positives/(Positives + negatives)
So 29/(29 + 21) = 29/50 = .58 or 58%*
*Not accounting for duplicate feedback, since we can't determine a total for that.
That's a failing grade in anyone's book.
04-11-2018 10:49 PM
@byrd69er wrote:Look at these stats, and do the percentages.
It's really sad that eBay allows sellers like this to exist on their site. While, at the same time, picking on small sellers who have had a couple return requests within a few hundred sales...over more than a year.
How exactly does eBay "pick on" small sellers with a couple return requests?
04-11-2018 11:52 PM - edited 04-11-2018 11:54 PM
@newnewnewmann wrote:Here's another seller that really defies any rational reason as to why they are allowed to continue, it's been going on for months. The seller sells laptops and most of the negs are for 2 things;
Refuses to ship telling the buyer they didn't get enough money, or many other excuses.
Cancels order after buyer pays.
Their feedback rating is 61.4!
They are still listing over 2 hundred laptops and add new listings daily.
Scary what ebay allows. Complaints from buyers said ebay does nothing.
Complaints from buyers say ebay does nothing.......that's interesting...
Isn't the whole point of having the Feedback system as a way to protect buyers?....but there are clearly thousands and thousands of buyers who don't even check FB before they buy.......these customers aren't doing themselves any favors, yet they still expect ebay to fly in and save them when there's a problem........
Not saying any customer deserves poor quality products but if buyers want to avoid problems then buyers need to police themselves........and if buyers would just start paying more attention, all these sellers with poor FB would quickly be out of business.
It may boggle the mind what ebay allows, but consumers also allow it by continuing to buy items from sellers like this...........
04-12-2018 02:35 AM
I totally agree that buyers have to do their due diligence when researching a seller - but Ebay dropped the ball with this second acct - they should have been long gone - others have been kicked off for less.
04-12-2018 07:08 AM
They are clearly making ebay money. Doubt they are going anywere anytime soon. Best regards
04-12-2018 07:13 AM
Percentage is what you compare... mot the numbers....
like the stock market....Percent up and down is what you really compare to historical events...the number won't make sense as the overal market heights...
so in this case it is the same...Ebay has a % that is a cut off...and we all have to meet it....
build your sales, your % is helped.....