Would you consider a Women's size Small and Size 2 the same thing?

[flyinhawaiiangirl]

The title of the listing says small, the item details list says size small, and there is only pics of front and back of item on a mannequin with no close ups. Buyer receives dress and the tag actually reads size 2. Would you think that would qualify for a NAD case?

[coolections]

Since you ordered small without asking the seller a question let me ask YOU. Is a size 2 small ? If it is keep it, if it is not send it back. Next time ask questions before purchasing if you are not sure.

[bigoljim47]

0-2 in most clothing labels are a XSmall, 4-6 are Small. If there were no measurements listed or a picture of the label and the item did not fit, I would file a SNAD.

Sometimes if I have an item I use both, number or letter because buyers search differently. 

[midnight_mystic]

As bigoljim47 said, a size 2 is an extra small. But you should never go by the marked size, only the flat measurements. If the seller didn't provide flat measurements, you could ask before buying. I just don't buy from lazy sellers who don't bother to provide flat measurements.

Yes, IMHO that qualifies as a NAD. Even if the item had been a size 4, which a small is normally considered a 4 to 6, it would still be NAD  because the seller did not describe the item accurately. The label does not say "small."

[chrysylys]

Are you the buyer or the seller?  In these threads it really matters as the advice can be different.

Since this is the Selling board, it would be reasonable to believe you are the seller, so all the advice about filing claims may be off target.

[gracieallen01]

No.

When someone says 'small', I've always considered that to be 'little'.  When they say 'size 2', I've considered that to be HOW little - as in small being general, and 'size 2' being specific.

[klassic*kids]

@flyinhawaiiangirl  As the other posters here say a size 2 is typically a women's size XS.  However, there is a tiny chance that a specific brand's measurements make their size 2 a standard size S, not XS.  

I don't know if you are the buyer or seller of this item but either way it should not have been listed as a S.  If the tag says 2 it should have been listed as size 2.  Then, depending on what the measurements are, in addition to size 2 I'd also put an XS (or S if applicable) in the title and description.  

Can you please clarify if you are the buyer or seller in this scenario?

[chrysylys]

My bottom line question regardless of who is the buyer or seller, is does it fit the intended person?  If so, does the label really matter?

[best_vintage_photos]

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@chrysylys wrote:

My bottom line question regardless of who is the buyer or seller, is does it fit the intended person?  If so, does the label really matter?

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And if the dress does fit, we must aquit!

[couldabeenworse]

Are you the buyer or the seller?  In these threads it really matters as the advice can be different.

Somehow, that seems wrong to me.... 

If the listing said nothing other than "small" and it was not labelled "small", that would be Significantly Not As Described, no matter which side of the fence I was on.  

[couldabeenworse]

Are you the buyer or the seller?  In these threads it really matters as the advice can be different.

Somehow, that seems wrong to me.... 

If the listing said nothing other than "small" and it was not labelled "small", that would be Significantly Not As Described, no matter which side of the fence I was on.  

[chrysylys]

^^  But the advice given may be different.

A seller posting might be advised to accept the return and correct their listings to prevent future issues, to take better pictures of labels and to include measurements.

A buyer posting might be advised to double check the listing, file for a return or seek some other resolution with the seller  and/or to ask questions in the future before buying if in doubt.

[myangelandmyprincess]

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@klassic*kids wrote:

@flyinhawaiiangirl  As the other posters here say a size 2 is typically a women's size XS.  However, there is a tiny chance that a specific brand's measurements make their size 2 a standard size S, not XS.  

I don't know if you are the buyer or seller of this item but either way it should not have been listed as a S.  If the tag says 2 it should have been listed as size 2.  Then, depending on what the measurements are, in addition to size 2 I'd also put an XS (or S if applicable) in the title and description.  

Can you please clarify if you are the buyer or seller in this scenario?

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This.  It really depends on the brand 

[emerald40]

Sizes 2, 4 ,6 etc. and small, medium, large

They vary so much from manufcturer that they are basiclly useless.

Is 2 a small - to a woman who is size 14 - YES.

To a woman who is a 0 - NO.

All in the eyes of the woman who orders it.

[luckythewinner]

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@couldabeenworse wrote:

Are you the buyer or the seller?  In these threads it really matters as the advice can be different.

 Somehow, that seems wrong to me.... 

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Why would that seem wrong?

If the OP is the buyer, the advice might be to ask for measurements in the future, or to file a SNAD case.

If the OP is the seller, the advice might be to do a better job when listing clothing, or to accept the SNAD return and apologize.

Same situation - but very different advice.

[flyinhawaiiangirl]

Just replying to the last post. I am the buyer. I only order one brand of clothing 99% of the time so I know this brand's sizes very well. I wear a 4-6 in bottoms and usually a medium based in broad shoulder size only if it's sized sm, med, lrg. If item is sleeveless, I can pull off a small or a 4.

This was a sleeveless dress listed in title and item specifics both as a small. I had no reason to ask for measurements since I'm so familiar with the brand's sizes.

What I got was a size 2.  Among other things wrong with the dress ( listed NWOT, clearly worn previously), and listed as white with actual pics a little beige and stock pics of bright white. 4 pics total. Front and back, actual item and stock pics. I was expecting something in between.

Seller also sent dress with two dryer sheets wrapped up in it, and it smells so strong and terrible plus my allergies weren't that happy upon opening the package.

But I feel the wrong size listed makes a NAD claim a slam dunk. Does it fit? Yes today it does. But I can't reach too far forward or eat a large meal because it could be a questionable fit afterwards. 🙂 ha