06-16-2020 03:40 PM
I have never posted here before, but feel I must say something as eBay's NEW politically correct policy of what is considered "Offensive Material" is threatening to erase history and reminders of the past and present that are deemed to someone, somewhere and somehow to be "offensive"? Including any item that depicts the confederate flag, anything post 1933 that includes symbolism of Nazi Germany, anything that can be considered offensive to anyone who identifies themselves by race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. This is the official new "Offensive Materials Policy update" This is directly from the ebay:
- Listings that promote, perpetuate, or glorify hatred, violence, or discrimination, including on the grounds of race, ethnicity, color, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, aren’t allowed. This includes, but isn't limited to, the following:
-- Slurs or epithets of any kind
-- Items, including figurines, cartoons, housewares, historical advertisements, and golliwogs with racist, anti-Semitic, or otherwise demeaning portrayals, for example through caricatures or other exaggerated features
-- Black Americana items that are discriminatory
-- Slavery items, including reproductions, such as tags, shackles, documents, bills of sale, etc.
-- Confederate battle flag and related items with its image
-- Historical Holocaust-related items, including reproductions
-- Any item that is anti-Semitic or any item from after 1933 that bears a swastika
-- Media identified as Nazi propaganda
-- Listings that imply or promote support of, membership in, or funding of a terrorist organization
- When offering shipping to other countries, make sure to first check our
What is happening to us?!?
06-17-2020 12:53 AM
06-17-2020 01:07 AM - edited 06-17-2020 01:10 AM
@coolections wrote:Where have you been the last 8 years or so. Everyone wants to erase history not just Ebay. Most of the US statues have been ripped apart, flags burned, signs torn up, buildings parks and streets renamed, etc. So yes, it is not just Ebay, People no longer want history from the past and wants to forget it ever happened. I think it started with Obama allowing everyone to pass in school regardless of grades, and everyone to receive an award in athletics regardless of what place they came in. So to answer your question, NO it is not just Ebay.
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06-17-2020 02:40 AM - edited 06-17-2020 02:41 AM
for some things it's understandable and agreeable by most people, the part I do not see agreement with in the field of "Confederate battle flag and related items with its image" and "Black Americana items that are discriminatory"... you can't have "Black Americana" and "discriminatory" in the same line, because? that is discriminatory - it's saying that all Black Americana is discriminatory and therefore not allowed on the site. And it seems from the community threads they are doing just that, removing anything and all. Not to bright of wording, in a law perspective, any lawyer could argue discrimination and prove it easily. As for the flag, trying to bury and erase history isn't the answer to solving present day issues. It's more of a mistake, that will pay a huge price for in the future when it's buried and forgotten and repeats itself instead of learning from it. My point simply put is you can't fight discrimination with discrimination and maybe I'm wrong but seems to me that is what ebay is doing?
06-17-2020 07:59 AM
eBay has to watch out for its share holders and not engage in activities that might be damaging to its bottom line
LOL. A little late for that at present. Some feel this new episode of an attempt to comply with the prevailing public mood of the day by slashing the BA category is merely an attempt at diversion away from those "activities that might be damaging". Why don't they just change the name to the "Americana" category????
06-17-2020 09:05 AM
Isn't just ebay. The last Sambo's restaurant that is still open is changing their name. Quaker Oats announced that Aunt Jemima is getting a name change and new image.
06-17-2020 09:12 AM
06-17-2020 09:13 AM
Some pundit is on a stump claiming Kellog's is racist because of rice crispies. Why? Because there are 3 white boys on the box.
06-17-2020 09:19 AM - edited 06-17-2020 09:24 AM
"... Listings that imply or promote support of, membership in, or funding of a terrorist organization ..."
There are currently 3351 antifa items listed for sale on ebay. Some of it promoting the modern antifa and some of it historical and related to its origins as the paramilitary wing of the German Communist Party and funded by Joe Stalin to spread communism around the world.
Fascism was considered by the Soviets as end-stage capitalism and the two words (fascist and capitalist) were used interchangeably.
06-17-2020 09:22 AM
Sounds like a boycott in the making!!!!!!
06-17-2020 09:26 AM
@dtexley3 wrote:Some pundit is on a stump claiming Kellog's is racist because of rice crispies. Why? Because there are 3 white boys on the box.
They aren't boys they are elves, you can tell by their ears and by their size in relation to the bowl of cereal. From the food making clan that also includes the Keebler elves. I'm pretty sure that all elves are white, from northern Europe. I don't recall seeing any non-white elves in Lord of the Rings.
06-17-2020 09:28 AM
"My point simply put is you can't fight discrimination with discrimination and maybe I'm wrong but seems to me that is what ebay is doing? "
I so agree! Thank you for saying that!!!!
If they really want to fight discrimination, perhaps ebay could begin by making their board more diversified!!! Banning Black Americana items won't accomplish anything except force customers to add to their collections by buying elsewhere. Like in the "old days". At antique stores and brick and mortar auctions.
Make ebay's board (and employees who make important decisions) more representative of our entire culture.
I seriously doubt that it was a black person who took down our Martin Luther King Christian Leadership Conference Locket!
06-17-2020 09:34 AM
06-17-2020 09:39 AM - edited 06-17-2020 09:41 AM
Why is eBay trying to erase history and ban items?
eBay is banning items, but they are not trying to "erase history".
06-17-2020 09:43 AM
My buddy just had an I had A Dream Martin Luther King Pin taken down. I guess it was offensive to white supremist.
06-17-2020 09:44 AM - edited 06-17-2020 09:46 AM
@bosmingfarg wrote:
I want history shared so we don't repeat the bad things. Sharing isn't glorifying certain events.
You and anyone else in this country are free to open up your house and your yard and your living room to allow people to share these items if you want to.
And you are free to create a website where they can be shared.
Just because some are choosing not to allow it on their property does not mean that history cannot be shared.
It simply means they are exercising their freedom under the Constitution to make a choice that you apparently do not agree with.