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Who else hasn't learned their lesson?

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different result.  I guess this is my dilemma with eBay.  I keep adding listings & expecting multiple sales.  The rare ray of sunshine breaks through & I have a great day.  Most of the time, 0-2 sales in a day.  3 days into this week - 1 sale.  I never seem to learn.  Does this mean I like disappointment?  lol   I wonder if they have internet in rubber rooms?  😛   Fortunately, other avenues are coming through for me.   Good luck to all.     🙂

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@sakic92710 wrote:

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different result.  


Correct. Some sellers keep listing the same items over and over in which buyers do not purchase. It could be do to items are not in demand, or most importantly overpriced. When one expects the same result but without change, I would surmise that some have not learned their lesson.

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If only items listed that are "in demand" were on here, how many posts would there be?  I prefer to have items that have little competition so, I don't have to beat out 750 other sellers with the same 'in demand' items.  I can sell in demand items where there are no fees attached.    🙂

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@sakic92710 wrote:

I prefer to have items that have little competition so, I don't have to beat out 750 other sellers with the same 'in demand' items.


There are many item "in demand" that have very few listed. I wasn't talking about items you buy at a store such as Walmart that have 750 people selling the same thing. An example would be a good condition Ekersley card would be "in demand", but a worn one would not be "in demand". Or an original Beatles poster that is not ripped but in good condition at the right price would be "in demand". Sometime you have to think like a buyer when selling.

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different result.  I guess this is my dilemma with eBay.  I keep adding listings & expecting multiple sales.  The rare ray of sunshine breaks through & I have a great day.  Most of the time, 0-2 sales in a day.  3 days into this week - 1 sale.  I never seem to learn.  Does this mean I like disappointment?  lol   I wonder if they have internet in rubber rooms?  😛   Fortunately, other avenues are coming through for me.   Good luck to all.     🙂


I feel the exact same way about the other venues I've tried for years. Totally useless. No sales. I'll never, ever break even on Etsy, so I'm just letting my listings expire there before I ride off into the sunset.  Amazon has no demand for what I sell, and even when I did sell something the fees were ridiculous to the point of only making a few cents on some items.  Bonanza is dead as a doornail, never had a sale there in over five years.  I have given up on all of them.

 

I know how you feel, in reverse lol

Gotta do what 'ya gotta do, and I gotta do it here. Wish I could make it work other places, but I'm tired of trying. I'm actually looking forward to concentrating on only one venue, at least for a while.

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.


We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell
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I know you like to keep bringing up my Beatles poster like it is a piece of garbage worth only $5.  They can hold their breathe until they are blue in the face, waiting to find one is much better condition but, they would be paying $250 for it if they found it.  So, I'm offering mine up for less than 20% that value because it is in rougher condition.  Still a great collectible.  If I had to think like a buyer when I created my listings, I'd have to set my prices at rock bottom levels then, sell for even less on offers.   lol

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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

@sakic92710 wrote:

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different result.  I guess this is my dilemma with eBay.  I keep adding listings & expecting multiple sales.  The rare ray of sunshine breaks through & I have a great day.  Most of the time, 0-2 sales in a day.  3 days into this week - 1 sale.  I never seem to learn.  Does this mean I like disappointment?  lol   I wonder if they have internet in rubber rooms?  😛   Fortunately, other avenues are coming through for me.   Good luck to all.     🙂


I feel the exact same way about the other venues I've tried for years. Totally useless. No sales. I'll never, ever break even on Etsy, so I'm just letting my listings expire there before I ride off into the sunset.  Amazon has no demand for what I sell, and even when I did sell something the fees were ridiculous to the point of only making a few cents on some items.  Bonanza is dead as a doornail, never had a sale there in over five years.  I have given up on all of them.

 

I know how you feel, in reverse lol

Gotta do what 'ya gotta do, and I gotta do it here. Wish I could make it work other places, but I'm tired of trying. I'm actually looking forward to concentrating on only one venue, at least for a while.


I keep listing and selling on Ebay but the quantities and the amount of sales from ebay continue to drop each and every month.  I fully hope to be completely weaned from ebay when they force all Sellers onto the Managed Payments and begin to control all our monies and when we get them.  I know how things work now, but once there is no opt in but forced in does everybody really expect Ebay to leave any money on the table?  They have already shown the propensity to take every penny they can from their existing sellers with more and more of it coming from non sales related revenue streams.

 

I recently saw the "EXTRA" average percentages being paid by category for the hope that your items will now be seen and the fees are almost double in most categories.  So Ebay has now made it so that Sellers have to pay an additional 6 to 10% for their items to be seen and hopefully sell, but they also want the Sellers to lower their prices.  Evidently Ebay does not accept the reality that Sellers need to make more money on the sale than Ebay does if they want to stay in business, but then they wonder why their site does not grow while other sites continue to grow in double digits.  Its all about Sellers being able to sell their items, not pay listing fees and then additional fees just to hopefully have your items shown and the other sites seem to understand this philosophy.

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You wanted to know if others learned their lesson. Many sellers have and learned to make changes. I was helping you since you started a topic stating you still have not learned. Holding your breath until a buyer comes along is a stretch.

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You're not insane, you just don't have stuff that anybody wants. I mean, a VCR for $250? That's a $20 yard sale item.

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@southern*sweet*tea wrote:

@sakic92710 wrote:

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over & over and expecting a different result.  I guess this is my dilemma with eBay.  I keep adding listings & expecting multiple sales.  The rare ray of sunshine breaks through & I have a great day.  Most of the time, 0-2 sales in a day.  3 days into this week - 1 sale.  I never seem to learn.  Does this mean I like disappointment?  lol   I wonder if they have internet in rubber rooms?  😛   Fortunately, other avenues are coming through for me.   Good luck to all.     🙂


I feel the exact same way about the other venues I've tried for years. Totally useless. No sales. I'll never, ever break even on Etsy, so I'm just letting my listings expire there before I ride off into the sunset.  Amazon has no demand for what I sell, and even when I did sell something the fees were ridiculous to the point of only making a few cents on some items.  Bonanza is dead as a doornail, never had a sale there in over five years.  I have given up on all of them.

 

I know how you feel, in reverse lol

Gotta do what 'ya gotta do, and I gotta do it here. Wish I could make it work other places, but I'm tired of trying. I'm actually looking forward to concentrating on only one venue, at least for a while.


I keep listing and selling on Ebay but the quantities and the amount of sales from ebay continue to drop each and every month.  I fully hope to be completely weaned from ebay when they force all Sellers onto the Managed Payments and begin to control all our monies and when we get them.  I know how things work now, but once there is no opt in but forced in does everybody really expect Ebay to leave any money on the table?  They have already shown the propensity to take every penny they can from their existing sellers with more and more of it coming from non sales related revenue streams.

 

I recently saw the "EXTRA" average percentages being paid by category for the hope that your items will now be seen and the fees are almost double in most categories.  So Ebay has now made it so that Sellers have to pay an additional 6 to 10% for their items to be seen and hopefully sell, but they also want the Sellers to lower their prices.  Evidently Ebay does not accept the reality that Sellers need to make more money on the sale than Ebay does if they want to stay in business, but then they wonder why their site does not grow while other sites continue to grow in double digits.  Its all about Sellers being able to sell their items, not pay listing fees and then additional fees just to hopefully have your items shown and the other sites seem to understand this philosophy.


Call me a selfish realist.  I want to make money. I make it here. I'm not going to cut off my nose to spite my face just because the venue doesn't run the way I want it to. I'm not prone to hissy fits. Others may have the luxury to walk away - I don't.

 

I'm glad other sites have worked for you and other sellers. They haven't worked for me. Ebay has. My stuff sells here. I sell 20-30 or more items monthly on this account, the same if not more on my other accounts here. In almost six  years I sold zero of the same items on Bonanza. I paid $182.20 in listing fees on Etsy last year and sold a grand total of nine items for $125 minus the 10% FVF.  I sold 16 items last year on Amazon, paid through the nose in fees at 15% plus $1 plus 7 cents each for shipping labels since I want their INR "protection".  I think I made around $70 after all is said and done, I'd have to go back and look.  I list the same books and booklets on those sites that I do here. Those sites have a very sad lack of buyers for what I offer, so I have to stay where the buyers are.

 

I don't pay listing fees here (outside of a store subscription for this account).  I've tried promoted listings - I think I have two or three right now for 1 and 2%.  They generally don't work.  I make money here. That's why I stay. Whatever I'm doing here works, and whatever Ebay is doing works for me, so here I stay. I don't like it that other places haven't worked for me, but that's MY reality.  I am stuck here, at least for the time being, and I have to make it work - and it's not that hard to do frankly.

 

They say the grass is greener on the other side of the fence. I've been to the other side of the fence, and all I encountered was dirt patches and crispy dry grass.

 

If that means I'm an insane idiot, so be it.  If that makes me an Ebay cheerleader, rah rah, so be it.  I'm just someone doing what works for me.  I assume others do the same.

The easier you are to offend the easier you are to control.


We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did. - Thomas Sowell
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Is that why 2 Betamax VCRs have sold for $115 & $100 on eBay?  +shipping.   $20???  I bet sellers LOVE seeing you show up to offer $0.50 for $25 items.   LOL

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Well, I've got a Zenith and a Toshiba gathering dust with no takers on Craigslist for $20 the last 5 years. Maybe I should list it here?

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Another lesson. One sold for $125 and one sold for $120. You are asking $335 and it has not sold ?

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I'll give a couple examples.

 

There is a pattern of dishes that although there are 40some listings, none have sold in 3 months.....

 

Nobody has dinner plates in good shape. I know for a fact that if someone listed them there would be competition and they'd sell for a good price.  Standing offer, I'd pay $15 each plus shipping. For a pattern that a 99 cent listing for 8 salad plates never sold.

 

There are patterns of glass that seem to have no sales ever. List the right piece and it would at auction end over $1000 with 20 or 30 bidders. 

 

too many people list 6 cups, 2 bread plates and a fruit bowl and price it at $79.......

 

Or list cups single at $19.99 each........



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I guess I AM insane.  I keep listing things, selling things, shipping things, and depositing money into the samo samo bank account every day.  But maybe not, because I don't expect a different result every time, I'm hoping for the same.

List more, sell more. Goodwill that other, uh, stuff.

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