What is so interesting about this item?

[quadcitypickers]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/223030046714

I listed it as possibly being silver, it's up to $45. I didn't expect it to bring maybe $15.

It has 14 watchers!

I've listed a lot of silver in the past, including some pretty rare stuff, and nothing has ever garnered attention like this.

[tiramisu41]

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@juststuffisell wrote:
...I suspect somebody bidding on it knows something...

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I agree @juststuffisell.  If you look at the bidding history of those who have bid on it I would say "they know their stuff."  

OP, isn't it fun when you have a diamond in the rough like this, and out pops a gem?     Will be interesting to see where it ends up...  🙂

[ted_200]

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@emerald40 wrote:

OP, your listing is a snad waiting to happen.

It is possible someone overlooked the question mark, and thinks it is silver.

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No, it's not.  It's accurately described, the color is silver, they correctly said the do not know if it's solid silver or not.  The listing/policy police problem is part of the reason eBay is unpopular with users... there are plenty of outright scam listings on eBay, eBay won't do anything about them, and freaking out over an honestly described listing is counterproductive.  Regardless of what a seller says, EVERYTHING listed on eBay is a SNAD waiting to happen, because of eBay. 

Your listing violates eBay's "keyword spamming" policy:

• Words with question marks (such as "carved wood dresser – antique?"). If you're not sure about a detail, don't call it out at all because doing so can be misleading.

If you're not sure it's silver, you're not allowed to use the word "silver".

See above.

I would edit/add the word chatelaine if it is the right size and has the loop to attache to a chain.

You can't edit an Auction with bids, and they can't add anything now either.

Item is doing well! 

[quadcitypickers]

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@tiramisu41 wrote:

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@juststuffisell wrote:
...I suspect somebody bidding on it knows something...

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I agree @juststuffisell.  If you look at the bidding history of those who have bid on it I would say "they know their stuff."  

OP, isn't it fun when you have a diamond in the rough like this, and out pops a gem?     Will be interesting to see where it ends up...  🙂

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Thanks. It's interesting how I have had items buy-it-now for 3 weeks, get few views, put it in auction, it it sells for double the asking price when it was BIN.

Then I've had stuff in auction, with few views, then relisted it at fixed price when it ended, and it sold within 2 hours.

I wish there was some kind of crystal ball that would tell me if I should list auction or buy it now.

BTW, I found another one listed for sale being described as silver, asking price of $70.

https://endearingbestowment.com/shop/estate-collectibles/bird/

[emerald40]

I disagree.  You do not guess in the title

Vintage Silver?

And what is being questioned  - that it is silver or tat it is vintage?

I stand by my post.  This is very confusing and a SNAD waiting to happen.

You need to know what you are selling and titles need to be accurate.

So are you saying you can put gold in a title if it is gold filled or gold plated?

Same thing here.  Far difference between silver and silverplate.

[quadcitypickers]

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@emerald40 wrote:

I disagree.  You do not guess in the title

Vintage Silver?

And what is being questioned  - that it is silver or tat it is vintage?

I stand by my post.  This is very confusing and a SNAD waiting to happen.

You need to know what you are selling and titles need to be accurate.

So are you saying you can put gold in a title if it is gold filled or gold plated?

Same thing here.  Far difference between silver and silverplate.

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What is so confusing about it? I litterally put in the description "bid on the asumption that it is silver plate".

I go to a lot of live auctions. A lot of auctioners will guess at something. There is nothing wrong with guessing. "It looks like it might be Fenton". But they aren't going to hold up a plate from the dollar store and go "Oh my gosh, this is Fenton!"

I've also seen "looks like it might be silver, not sure".

[quadcitypickers]

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@emerald40 wrote:
So are you saying you can put gold in a title if it is gold filled or gold plated?

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Yes. They sell gold (colored) iPhones, but I don't expect them to be solid gold.

There is only so much room in a title. What would be a better title?

Fredrick Von Dinkleberg Gold Eyeglasses

Antique Eyeglasses 1/20 12k Gold Filled.

Now say you only had room for either one, and the brand I just made up is super rare. How are people going to find it? There is not always room to put gold filled or gold plated. But I'm not going solid gold or 14kt gold on an item that I know is not. That is why I put silver, followed by a question mark.

 But I guess assuming the average intelligence of people today, I should also put "batteries not included", "choking hazzard, contains small parts" and "may contain lead, do not put in mouth".

We do live in an age where more adults died eating laundry packets than small children.

[emerald40]

A lot of people, especially on their phone do not read past the titles.

And I can tell you now that if someone buys it on the assumption it is silver and turns out it is not, they can file SNAD and ebay will force you to reimburse them.

[quadcitypickers]

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@emerald40 wrote:

A lot of people, especially on their phone do not read past the titles.

And I can tell you now that if someone buys it on the assumption it is silver and turns out it is not, they can file SNAD and ebay will force you to reimburse them.

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So if someone buys a gold iPhone, they can file a SNAD claiming it's not real gold?

If someone buys a pair of silver shoes, they can force a return claiming they weren't sewn with sterling silver thread?

What about a bunch of gold star stickers?

Come on...

[emerald40]

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@quadcitypickers wrote:

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@emerald40 wrote:
So are you saying you can put gold in a title if it is gold filled or gold plated?

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Yes. They sell gold (colored) iPhones, but I don't expect them to be solid gold.

There is only so much room in a title. What would be a better title?

Fredrick Von Dinkleberg Gold Eyeglasses

Antique Eyeglasses 1/20 12k Gold Filled.

Now say you only had room for either one, and the brand I just made up is super rare. How are people going to find it? There is not always room to put gold filled or gold plated. But I'm not going solid gold or 14kt gold on an item that I know is not. That is why I put silver, followed by a question mark.

 But I guess assuming the average intelligence of people today, I should also put "batteries not included", "choking hazzard, contains small parts" and "may contain lead, do not put in mouth".

We do live in an age where more adults died eating laundry packets than small children.

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One knows a phone is gold colored.

But one can expect this item to be silver if you put that in the title.

So you put gold in the title if it is plated.

And people wonder why search is so messed up.

Intelligence?  Nope it is something called truth in advertising. 

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[ted_200]

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@emerald40 wrote:

I disagree.  You do not guess in the title

Vintage Silver?

And what is being questioned  - that it is silver or tat it is vintage?

I stand by my post.  This is very confusing and a SNAD waiting to happen.

You need to know what you are selling and titles need to be accurate.

So are you saying you can put gold in a title if it is gold filled or gold plated?

Same thing here.  Far difference between silver and silverplate.

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Well, I'm not confused.  At best, I'll give you a category issue, but I still think it's silver anyhow. 

I consider a problem listing / potential SNAD situation as being claiming something it isn't, or claiming something you're not sure about as a fact.  I understand you'll want to have a policy discussion, but that would only confuse me.

[ted_200]

A lot of people, especially on their phone do not read past the titles.

Which is an excellent argument for doing exactly what you just said should not have been done!

Thankfully folks who buy gold iPhones are not likely bidding here, and I expect it will end just fine. 

[dirk12955]

THat snuff box has about $2.00 worth of silver in it, if it's silver.

How cynical we've all become when we can't imagine there might be one or two bidders hot to own a Bird themed snuff box.

[emerald40]

So you see no problem with putting gold in the title with a question mark only to have plated or filled in the description?

When someone sees gold or silver they do not assume plated, unless it specifically says so.

How would you like to see a store with a big sale in their window saying gold necklaces on sale.

What would you assume them to be?  That is false advertising plain and simple.

[ted_200]

So if someone buys a gold iPhone, they can file a SNAD claiming it's not real gold?

If someone buys a pair of silver shoes, they can force a return claiming they weren't sewn with sterling silver thread?

What about a bunch of gold star stickers?

The other user may be overly focused on rules that exist (used to exist?) for the jewelry categories, where there were very specific policies on using "silver" vs. "silver plate", "gold" vs. "gold filled" etc.  Oddly, I just looked for all that, but it appears the jewelry policies have been updated since I originally became familiar with them, and I was unable to locate those jewelry-specific policies anymore. 

[quadcitypickers]

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@emerald40 wrote:

So you see no problem with putting gold in the title with a question mark only to have plated or filled in the description?

When someone sees gold or silver they do not assume plated, unless it specifically says so.

How would you like to see a store with a big sale in their window saying gold necklaces on sale.

What would you assume them to be?  That is false advertising plain and simple.

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Stores have unlimited charecters for a title. eBay does not.

There are a lot of car dealerships around here offering "$2,000 for your trade" in big bold letters, there is often a laundry list of exclusions.