03-22-2018 09:26 AM
THe basic description of a sale is you sell an item for what you are willing to sell it for and what a willing buyer will buy it for, PERIOD. Not what only buyers in Florida, or buyers in Illinois will buy....but ANY buyer. This is NOT free trade, but deceptive marketing. I wouldn't be surprised if some sellers file suit. The grouping situation is also deceptive. If I have a great description on my item, and great photos, and provide great service, but I charge more - why should Amazon "pick" s cheaper alternative? Not all of us can buy in bulk so we can sell at the cheapest price. We sell one or two of an item and make a few dollars. It is not in the interest of the buyer OR the seller to have items "grouped" similarly. You take out any willing buyer/willing seller option. You guys need to stop trying to get promotions and "justifying your jobs" by thinking up dumb ways to mess with a good basic system. Work on your customer service and quit manipulating our view. The reason we are here is because you are NOT Amazon. Stop trying to copy them. Looking for other platforms to sell on because you are ruining this for all but the big guys.
03-22-2018 09:34 AM
@bohomodernstylewrote:THe basic description of a sale is you sell an item for what you are willing to sell it for and what a willing buyer will buy it for, PERIOD. Not what only buyers in Florida, or buyers in Illinois will buy....but ANY buyer. This is NOT free trade, but deceptive marketing. I wouldn't be surprised if some sellers file suit. The grouping situation is also deceptive. If I have a great description on my item, and great photos, and provide great service, but I charge more - why should Amazon "pick" s cheaper alternative? Not all of us can buy in bulk so we can sell at the cheapest price. We sell one or two of an item and make a few dollars. It is not in the interest of the buyer OR the seller to have items "grouped" similarly. You take out any willing buyer/willing seller option. You guys need to stop trying to get promotions and "justifying your jobs" by thinking up dumb ways to mess with a good basic system. Work on your customer service and quit manipulating our view. The reason we are here is because you are NOT Amazon. Stop trying to copy them. Looking for other platforms to sell on because you are ruining this for all but the big guys.
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You may not like the way ebay does business, but everything is clearly spelled out before hand.
Then it is up to you to choose this venue or another. Nothing deceptive about it.
As far as the best offers, ebay is not a place to park your items forever with little chance of being sold. So I can understand them wanting to make them more marketable. But the great thing about best offer is a seller can set up auto decline and totally ignore it, if they wish.
03-22-2018 09:37 AM
eBay doesn't want small sellers that sell only one or two, of a specific item. They want the big seller that sells 100's of the same item.
03-22-2018 09:47 AM
03-22-2018 10:19 AM
ebay is not a place to park your items forever with little chance of being sold.
umm, that is exactly what eBay has become.
03-22-2018 10:24 AM
Not all of us can buy in bulk so we can sell at the cheapest price.
Or stated differently, "some us have listings that are simply less competitive".
03-22-2018 10:26 AM
@jason_incognitowrote:ebay is not a place to park your items forever with little chance of being sold.
umm, that is exactly what eBay has become.
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Which is why my son ended up buying his Christmas decoration on the big A.
He went on, found it, checked out. Took minutes.
In ebay, he was in search h*ll trying to find what he wanted.
03-22-2018 10:38 AM
It's not that they don't want small sellers - it's because many of these small sellers are drop shipping or using stock photos and descriptions that 100 other small sellers are using to sell the same item - at that point - the buyer will choose lowest price and buy his item from the seller with the lowest price.
If a small seller does not entice the buyer to look at their item - it will sit plan and simple. It doesn't stand out from the other 100 selections that come up within search.
Sometimes people have to do a little research to see what sells and whether it's worth their time to sell it here. There might be 3,000 sellers of the same item and a total of 100 being sold within the past 90 days - not a good item to sell here
03-22-2018 10:40 AM
@emerald40wrote:
@jason_incognitowrote:ebay is not a place to park your items forever with little chance of being sold.
umm, that is exactly what eBay has become.
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Which is why my son ended up buying his Christmas decoration on the big A.
He went on, found it, checked out. Took minutes.
In ebay, he was in search h*ll trying to find what he wanted.
You got that right. Nothing is easy on eBay anymore. Plus eBay now thinks it knows what's best for you when you do your search, and wants to use AI to pick wants relevant, and leave off anything else regardless of a match up.
03-22-2018 10:51 AM
@tunicaslotwrote:It's not that they don't want small sellers - it's because many of these small sellers are drop shipping or using stock photos and descriptions that 100 other small sellers are using to sell the same item - at that point - the buyer will choose lowest price and buy his item from the seller with the lowest price.
If a small seller does not entice the buyer to look at their item - it will sit plan and simple. It doesn't stand out from the other 100 selections that come up within search.
Sometimes people have to do a little research to see what sells and whether it's worth their time to sell it here. There might be 3,000 sellers of the same item and a total of 100 being sold within the past 90 days - not a good item to sell here
Many of those dropshipper sellers are in fact big sellers. They have virtual inventory, and very little investment. That how Bezos started out and look at Amazon now. My family was in the mail order business for half a century, and they dropshipped books from small publishers, and distributors.
All they did was print catalogs with photos supplied by the Pub/Dist and a synopsis of the book, etc. Ran ads, and shipped catalogs out to customers. The rest was done over the phone everyday, placing orders to ship out to whomever.
03-22-2018 11:01 AM
I agree that many sellers have made money in drop shipping - but every tom, dick and harry is trying to do the same thing now. Chances of them becoming the next big retailer are slim to none - unless they have a huge inventory - offer prices cheaper than anyone else - advertising - and making next to nothing on each sale.
We also have seen how many buyers react to drop shippers on here and avoid them like the plague.
03-22-2018 11:47 AM
Sales would come back. That simple. It's a waste of time to even list on here now. Been on here since 2001, know the difference. The game is to blame you as a seller. It's your titles, your shipping, your prices, your returns, your this and your that. It's what your selling? I'll say this, if it's what your selling? Then it spams every item under the sun. From clothes to coins, to toys ,to shoes, to tools etc. It does NOT matter. Purpose is to get you off here. why? maybe make the site into an Amazon... big boxers, chinese junk? who knows?Alibaba? destroy the company? like Bain capitol? what ever.
03-22-2018 12:15 PM
@bohomodernstylewrote:
Not all of us can buy in bulk so we can sell at the cheapest price.
Why would you think eBay, or any other marketplace, should be concerned about that? That's your problem. Do you expect eBay to force buyers to pay you more money for something because the prices you pay are higher?
That's not business; that's welfare.
03-22-2018 12:43 PM - edited 03-22-2018 12:45 PM
What if ebay just STOPPPPPPPED all the manipulations of the listings?
I wonder if sales might take off like a rocket!
Just my thought, though. I'm a buyer and I find things after the fact that I never saw in search the first time, when I switch from newly listed to ending soonest~and things pop up that were not there before.
Some buyers have expressed that they feel things they would be interested in are not being shown to them. A vague and nebulous feeling, to be sure, but apparently it is out there.
03-22-2018 01:00 PM
well, drop shipping the same items from thesame place and trying to get buyers at the same place is insane.
drop shipping always worked because people would create new markets. When there are 200 sellers all using the same ad on the same website.....