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USPS Scan sheets are NOT proof of shipment

When a scan sheet is scanned tracking for the items in the scan sheet say  "Shipment Received, Package Acceptance Pending"

 

So if your package is not processed by midnight with a acceptance scan when the sorting facility processes it ebay counts it as late shipment.

 

Furthermore USPS insurance wil lnto pay out on a item lost from the time the scan sheet is scanned until the package is scanned accepted at the sorting center. So even the USPS does not consider a scan sheet proof of shipment.

 

Bottom line is the scan sheet is useless, it does not prove anything was shipped.

 

With carriers nationwide refusing to scan more than 5 items at a time due to a directive taken out of context I see huge problems coming. 

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Thank you Trinton. Do you know if anyone is reaching out to the USPS to clarify that the maximum of 5 scans is not USPS policy?

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Why not just take the packages to the post office to get scanned?


That is probably because most sellers have better things to do with their time than wait in long lines behind the clueless masses who have know idea how USPS works, and always inadvertently find ways to cause mass delays for everyone else.

 

And many of us would not want to be that one person holding up everyone with a dozen or more packages to be individually scanned when the system is set up for those who have their packages ready to go should be able to put them in a drop off area and trust that USPS will do the job it is paid to do and get those scanned when time permits.

If it works, sell it. If it works well, sell it for more. If it doesn't work, quadruple the price and sell it as an antique.

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Personally, I don't feel it's fair to the carriers to leave a large number of packages out daily (unscheduled) and expect them to pick them all up and scan each.  Our carriers have small vehicles (usually their own) and run large routes (100 miles or more).  They simply do not have the room or the time to do this.

 

Scheduling pickups would be better as it could allow a separate run if necessary.  Meeting with the carrier or Postmaster to discuss that you may be doing this in the future could prevent issues and headaches.

 

Our PO is small with very little lobby traffic (and no acrylic partitions), so there is never a wait.

 

 


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Personally, I don't feel it's fair to the carriers to leave a large number of packages out daily (unscheduled) and expect them to pick them all up and scan each.  Our carriers have small vehicles (usually their own) and run large routes (100 miles or more).  They simply do not have the room or the time to do this.

 

Scheduling pickups would be better as it could allow a separate run if necessary.  Meeting with the carrier or Postmaster to discuss that you may be doing this in the future could prevent issues and headaches.

 

Our PO is small with very little lobby traffic (and no acrylic partitions), so there is never a wait.

 

 


Scheduling a pickup is easy and usually goes of without a hitch, so should be done if possible. However, that being said the carriers get paid to do a job and if I was a carrier I would be happy to be on an active route that provided meaningful work to me and value to the people I was serving. The last thought that would enter my mind would be that it was not "fair" that someone had left 10 packages for pickup without scheduling. I would be happy to be doing something meaningful, as  opposed to driving around on a boring, nearly dead route. That's my take on it.

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@chipper01work wrote:

 if I was a carrier I would be happy to be on an active route that provided meaningful work to me and value to the people I was serving. The last thought that would enter my mind would be that it was not "fair" that someone had left 10 packages for pickup without scheduling. I would be happy to be doing something meaningful, as  opposed to driving around on a boring, nearly dead route. That's my take on it.


USPS is almost always hiring carriers.  Try it and see if your take changes.

 

 


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Personally, I don't feel it's fair to the carriers to leave a large number of packages out daily (unscheduled) and expect them to pick them all up and scan each. 


Umm, isn't that part of their job? You know, to pick up and deliver packages.

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Personally, I don't feel it's fair to the carriers to leave a large number of packages out daily (unscheduled) and expect them to pick them all up and scan each.  Our carriers have small vehicles (usually their own) and run large routes (100 miles or more).  They simply do not have the room or the time to do this.

 

I do shedule a pickup in advance every day. My packages are small so they all fit in 1 white USPS bin. I set the packages up in the bin so they are fast and easy to scan. I actually time the carrier so when the supervisor comes back and says my pickup takes too much time I can rebut her. It takes the carrier on average 3.2 seconds to scan each package. 

 

A package accepted scan is part of the service I am paying $200 plus a day for in postage. I don't think 3 to 5 minutes of the carriers time is too much to ask for what I pay them.

 

My carrier wants to scan each package as her pay is based upon how many scans she does. It's her supervisor who is telling her no more than 5 scans as she does not want her route to pay more or be split up due to so many scans.

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My carrier wants to scan each package as her pay is based upon how many scans she does. It's her supervisor who is telling her no more than 5 scans as she does not want her route to pay more or be split up due to so many scans.


I dont think your carrier understnads how SCAN forms work. Her supervisor is -- okay - lets just say that her supervisor needs more training. Smiley Wink

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@chipper01work wrote:

 if I was a carrier I would be happy to be on an active route that provided meaningful work to me and value to the people I was serving. The last thought that would enter my mind would be that it was not "fair" that someone had left 10 packages for pickup without scheduling. I would be happy to be doing something meaningful, as  opposed to driving around on a boring, nearly dead route. That's my take on it.


USPS is almost always hiring carriers.  Try it and see if your take changes.

 

 


Too late in life for that kind of change now and I'm not willing to take the pay cut required. Twenty years ago I would have jumped on it though.

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I don't think 3 to 5 minutes of the carriers time is too much to ask for what I pay them.

 


OK, this may not be you, but it's something I saw this morning.

 

Carrier stopped at several mailboxes in a row as I was approaching from behind.  I slowed expecting the vehicle to pull out and move to the next.  Instead, they sat  (no idea why, possibly scanning packages?) partially off the road, partially on.  Mailbox placement didn't allow them to get completely off the road.  This was on a two lane road 55 MPH speed limit with no shoulders and in a right fading curve (double yellow line) such that you could NOT easily see around the carrier to see if there was oncoming traffic.  I was able to see enough to barely squeeze by just before several cars approached.  The cars behind me were not.  As I pulled away, I looked back long enough to see the carrier still stopped with about 5 or 6 vehicles blocked behind.  I don't know how long they waited after that as I was moving out of range and concerned with what was in front of me.

 

 


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@coins_artifacts wrote:
I don't think 3 to 5 minutes of the carriers time is too much to ask for what I pay them.

 


OK, this may not be you, but it's something I saw this morning.

 

Carrier stopped at several mailboxes in a row as I was approaching from behind.  I slowed expecting the vehicle to pull out and move to the next.  Instead, they sat  (no idea why, possibly scanning packages?) partially off the road, partially on.  Mailbox placement didn't allow them to get completely off the road.  This was on a two lane road 55 MPH speed limit with no shoulders and in a right fading curve (double yellow line) such that you could NOT easily see around the carrier to see if there was oncoming traffic.  I was able to see enough to barely squeeze by just before several cars approached.  The cars behind me were not.  As I pulled away, I looked back long enough to see the carrier still stopped with about 5 or 6 vehicles blocked behind.  I don't know how long they waited after that as I was moving out of range and concerned with what was in front of me.

 

 


Sounds dangerous and sounds like the entire setup needs a revamp at that location. That being said, I don't see how scheduling a pickup would have changed a thing.

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