Trading Cards - updated condition from new/used to graded/ungraded

[wastingtime101]

Trading card updated conditions announcement:

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Announcements/Revamp-your-trading-card-listings-with-updated-condition...

Representing the validity and condition of your trading cards just got easier. The new revamped grading system will help enhance the quality of your new listings and establish trust with your buyers.

Here’s an overview of what’s new:

• A revamped grading system for single trading cards, where we’ve upgraded from Used, to the more precise grading labels of Graded and Ungraded. 
• Graded: Add the relevant grader, numerical grade, and the certification number (recommended).
• Ungraded: Select the appropriate card condition that best fits the state of the card.

Your existing listings will also auto-migrate where there’s a one-to-one match between all the current card conditions.

Questions for eBay kyle@ebay elizabeth@ebay devon@ebay 

1. What happens to existing listings when there is not a one-to-one match? Do they stay new/used until the seller updates? Do they convert to ungraded? Something else?

2. What's the deadline for sellers making these updates before they start running into problems?

@shipscript - Tagging because I know you help a lot of trading card sellers with uploading specifics & variation changes through Seller Hub reports so you're probably interested in tracking this discussion.

[my-cottage-books-and-antiques]

Just adding this:

1. Seamless migration. Soon, your existing listings will auto-migrate where there’s a one-to-one match between all the current card conditions (Graded: Yes, Professional Grader, Grade or Graded: No, Card Condition) and the new Condition model (Condition: Graded, Professional Grader, and Grade or Condition: Ungraded; Descriptor: Card Condition).
   
   ●  Auto migration will occur with the new grading system launch in July.
2. For sellers using APIs to list, new listings will require the new grading system in October 2023 and existing listings in January 2024.

Stay tuned for more announcements coming in October.

[devon@ebay]

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@wastingtime101 wrote:

Trading card updated conditions announcement:

https://community.ebay.com/t5/Announcements/Revamp-your-trading-card-listings-with-updated-condition...

Representing the validity and condition of your trading cards just got easier. The new revamped grading system will help enhance the quality of your new listings and establish trust with your buyers.

Here’s an overview of what’s new:

• A revamped grading system for single trading cards, where we’ve upgraded from Used, to the more precise grading labels of Graded and Ungraded. 
• Graded: Add the relevant grader, numerical grade, and the certification number (recommended).
• Ungraded: Select the appropriate card condition that best fits the state of the card.

Your existing listings will also auto-migrate where there’s a one-to-one match between all the current card conditions.

Questions for eBay kyle@ebay elizabeth@ebay devon@ebay 

1. What happens to existing listings when there is not a one-to-one match? Do they stay new/used until the seller updates? Do they convert to ungraded? Something else?

2. What's the deadline for sellers making these updates before they start running into problems?

@shipscript - Tagging because I know you help a lot of trading card sellers with uploading specifics & variation changes through Seller Hub reports so you're probably interested in tracking this discussion.

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Hey @wastingtime101! We reached out to the product team and here is what we heard back:

 1.What happens to existing listings when there is not a one-to-one match?

Ans:  "If the seller were to revise their listing via one of the UI tools, and opt into the new experience for that listing via the opt-in link, we will move whatever condition grading related item specifics that we can move to the new condition grading structure on draft load.  The seller would have to move any that we could not move for them.  If the seller doesn’t touch the listing, nothing happens; It stays in its current state for the time being.  We probably would not take any action on existing listings that have not been revised and therefore have not migrated, for several months."

2.What’s the deadline for sellers making these updates before they run into problems?

Ans: "For sellers who use our UI clients, the new structure would be required on the revision of an existing listing in October of 2023."

[wastingtime101]

Thanks Devon - very helpful.

[onefootflipper]

Of course they announce this the day after I spent a solid week of labor splitting my store into a trading card store and a regular store. 

Had I known this was happening I would not have bothered. 

The only reason I sold cards on ebay in the first place is that they did not require conditions and I could just use photos.

I am certainly not going to go back and add card conditions to 14,000 cards.

So I guess this is the end of my card business on ebay.

[wastingtime101]

Can't you just pull all those listings into the bulk editor and set the condition as 'ungraded' @onefootflipper ?

[onefootflipper]

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@wastingtime101 wrote:

Can't you just pull all those listings into the bulk editor and set the condition as 'ungraded' @onefootflipper ?

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I was literally dealing with some cards in the bulk editor and started running into this new condition thing. Even if you select "Ungraded" you still have to select a condition.

I assume the change is in mid swing right now, because I edited a few thousand listings in bulk today and more and more of them got kicked back for that in each batch. I actually came to the board to see what was going on with it.

[wastingtime101]

Thanks for the info. I haven't had time to mess around with it yet.

[onefootflipper]

I imagine it would take me  1-2 months of 8 hour days to add conditions to all my cards. 

On the plus side I guess I am now going to be the proud owner of a Huge collection of Magic the Gathering and Pokemon cards that are worth less than $2 each because all the ones worth more than that have sold already (I stopped sourcing cards last summer when prices started falling and all the expensive ones have since sold).

[johnjefprks]

What do you do with a variation listing with 200 cards of various conditions.

[onefootflipper]

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@johnjefprks wrote:

What do you do with a variation listing with 200 cards of various conditions.

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You would take it down because condition as a variation has been against the rules for years.

[onefootflipper]

I just made a video on the impact this is going to have on a lot of card sellers.

https://youtu.be/qW8d16iXce4

[uncanned_heat]

Plus, since when are there only 4 different grades for cards? There is a lot of space between those grades.

[onefootflipper]

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@uncanned_heat wrote:

Plus, since when are there only 4 different grades for cards? There is a lot of space between those grades.

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The conditions they came up with are bad too. Their "Excellent" would likely translate to "Heavy Play" in TCGplayer terms and very good and poor would just be "Damaged" on that scale.

[sapphire_studio]

Yeah what is up with Minor Chipping on Corners and Edges and Minor Surface Indentations and Scratches meaning "NEAR MINT  OR BETTER"? Like whaaat?