There is no ban on CUBA items other than post Communist

[deltilogical]

Its time for Ebay to get their act together and get rid of their DUMBWARE.

They ban my postcards of the US base in Guantanomo in 1913!

There is no excuse for it.

I seem to spend as much time fighting ebay trying to prevent me from selling to actually selling.

[deltilogical]

The autoscripts that come up whenever the word "Indian" is used are also ridiculous.

But you can sell all the White Trash cookbooks and tshirts you want.

[slippinjimmy]

This is a reason, it's not an excuse because eBay doesn't need one.

If eBay allowed the listings of only some (older) Cuban items plenty of sellers would list stuff that is covered by the embargo but lie about it's age. This would make it extremely difficult to monitor so the easy way is to ban anything from Cuba, the potential penalties for eBay are severe.

https://sgrlaw.com/ttl-articles/860/

[luckythewinner]

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@deltilogical wrote:

There is no ban on CUBA items other than post Communist

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It appears eBay has banned all item from Cuba: 

What is the policy?
Sellers can't list embargoed goods or pre-embargoed goods from these countries or regions:

• Cuba

One of the freedoms we have in a America is that businesses have a wide latitude to operate however they choose. 

[assortedcollectibles]

I have a collection of Cuban and North-Korean coins because of this. Ironically they are for the most part minted in the west.

[ittybitnot]

Its time for Ebay to get their act together and get rid of their DUMBWARE.

@deltilogical 

Don't feel singled out.  Havana, Florida and Cuba Gooding have been known to get drowned in the eBay tuna net as well. 

[deltilogical]

"Cuba Gooding "

Thats hilarious.

I'm going to try to get on the chat today and bring this up.  This needs to be fixed.   Getting the message I'm going to be kicked off the platform for selling legal items because they are using some inadequate software is unacceptable.

[deltilogical]

"One of the freedoms we have in a America is that businesses have a wide latitude to operate however they choose"

You are right.

That is not the point of this post. 

They state one thing and then do another.  In their attempt to accommodate a never ending obsession and legal obligation against Cuba, Ebay is throwing out not just the baby with the bathwater, but the bassinet, the soap, the towel and the clothes being worn by the caregiver.

[deltilogical]

You mean the government created a law is impossible to implement?  

Its bunk.

I can't even sell the US Marines at Guantanomo from 1910 without being threatened  by Ebay. 

[maxine*j]

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@deltilogical wrote:

...  I'm going to try to get on the chat today and bring this up.  This needs to be fixed.   Getting the message I'm going to be kicked off the platform for selling legal items because they are using some inadequate software is unacceptable.

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Good luck.  I think what you're going to find is that since eBay cannot possibly have enough staff or enough time to check each listing to see if the items offered are allowable, it will continue to use AI to cancel any listing for any items from Cuba.   And eBay does make it clear that it prohibits the sale of both embargoed and unimbargoed goods from Cuba.

I think it's a shame, of course, but on a platform this size I don't, myself, see how else eBay can handle it since they dare not allow embargoed goods to be sold here.

And, by the way, many goods that are legal to own and to sell and to buy in the U.S., some without any restrictions at all in the U.S., are prohibited on eBay for a number of reasons.  So just making the "legal goods" argument will not get you very far.

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[ittybitnot]

You mean the government created a law is impossible to implement?  

@deltilogical 

Basically, this has been a long time "trade" (export/import) embargo.  The government implements it just fine.  It is eBay that cannot implement it appropriately, so they just don't allow anything remotely related to that county because that is easier than being called to task by the Feds.   I doubt eBay would suffer undue Federal consequences for the sale of postcards printed in the US of downtown Havana in the 1900s, but it is as said "eBay's sandbox" and they can do what they want to whomever they want at anytime. 

For anyone interested in a short historical prospective:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_embargo_against_Cuba

[deltilogical]

I have to disagree with those of you who support the blanket ban. 

It is illegal to sell counterfeit coins and items, yet Ebay seems to be able to police those items without blanket bans of purses or coins. which also have heavy fines.   Yet I do see the rule is included "Pre-embargoed". 

If I read the policy right, we aren't allowed to sell postcards from Syria printed in England in 1899.

But I can sell Saudia Arabia cards, where they kill journalists in their own embassy!

[slippinjimmy]

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@deltilogical wrote:

I have to disagree with those of you who support the blanket ban. 

It is illegal to sell counterfeit coins and items, yet Ebay seems to be able to police those items without blanket bans of purses or coins. which also have heavy fines.   Yet I do see the rule is included "Pre-embargoed". 

If I read the policy right, we aren't allowed to sell postcards from Syria printed in England in 1899.

But I can sell Saudia Arabia cards, where they kill journalists in their own embassy!

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Personally I do not support the Cuban embargo at all, over 60 years and it has not accomplished anything positive.

That said, I fully support eBay's decision to make it a blanket ban. The penalties for violating the Cuban Embargo Laws are severe and would put the entire eBay operations at risk.

If sellers could be relied upon to respect the law and only list eligible items that would be one thing but we all know that would only happen in a fantasy world. There is a significant portion of the seller community who feel that rules,  policies and laws of the land are to be ignored.

I can agree to an extent with your position on Saudi Arabia but the FACT is that the current limited sanctions imposed on the Saudis by the Biden Government are very targeted and do not restrict normal trade.

[walts_plaza]

I'm surprised they aren't banning Russian stamps. 

[lotzofuniquegoodies]

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@walts_plaza wrote:

I'm surprised they aren't banning Russian stamps. 

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@slippinjimmy 

@deltilogical 

Several years ago as a Canadian seller I tried to sell a personalized giftbox made in Kuba for tourist trade. It was previously purchased by a CANADIAN traveler. As far as I know there are no issues for Canadians to travel there. Same goes for Americans. So entirely not sure why an embargo gets attached to everyone?

-Lotz