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If I don’t have a business, why am I charged taxes on items I sell on ebay? When you have a garage sale you don’t have to pay taxes on the items you sell. I’ve been selling on eBay for years and never had to pay taxes. 

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@josiesjewels wrote:

I am not a business, I am selling stuff I inherited to make extra money to pay the bills. I never had a garage sale but my neighbors never mentioned having to pay taxes for having a garage sale.


 

You may want to hire a Tax Professional to do your taxes to account for the inherited items.

 

Be prepared to state when you inherited the items and what the value was at the time you inherited the items.

 

There are special Income Tax consideration's for selling inherited items.  If it something you just inherited the Taxes may not amount to much.

 

 

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@stephenmorgan wrote:

@josiesjewels wrote:

I am not a business, I am selling stuff I inherited to make extra money to pay the bills. I never had a garage sale but my neighbors never mentioned having to pay taxes for having a garage sale.


 

You may want to hire a Tax Professional to do your taxes to account for the inherited items.

 

Be prepared to state when you inherited the items and what the value was at the time you inherited the items.

 

There are special Income Tax consideration's for selling inherited items.  If it something you just inherited the Taxes may not amount to much.

 

 


Maybe yes and maybe no.  The value at the time you received the inheritance is taxable under state and federal inheritance tax laws.  Then if you sell the items for above the value at the time of inheritance, that money becomes taxable less expenses.

 

So it will depend on the value of the inheritance as to how much is paid in taxes.  The OP is lucky, they are in a state that if they inherited under 4 million dollars, the state doesn't collect any inheritance taxes, but the federal taxes would of course still apply.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

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Getting help from a pro is excellent advice. You want to make sure you take advantage of every deduction you are entitled to.

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"George Harrison once wrote a song about taxes. It's on the Beatles Revolver album. Pretty accurate!"

It was about The Tax Man, and he called them out by name: 
"Tax Man, Mr. Wilson!  Tax Man, Mr. Heath!"

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@maxine*j wrote:

@gosimus wrote:

@josiesjewels 

 

< why am I charged taxes on items I sell on ebay >   

 

Taxes 101 – You pay tax on the profit only.  The government requires you to report all income, but you adjust the gross by deducting expenses. 

 


Except OP says she is selling inherited items and is in no way operating a business -- essentially forgoing the chance of  most deductions,  making her gross is her net, and likely putting herself in the 28% tax bracket for the proceeds of the sales.     Oh, well.    🙄


Still a nice problem to have! 

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Although she hasn't returned to her thread, I hope @josiesjewels is following and taking pointers from it. 

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@mam98031 wrote:

This is correct which is why you are better off filing as a business and taking deduction on the Schedule C.

 

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/self-employment-taxes/4-tax-tips-for-money-making-hobbies/L89qz...

 

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-what-taxpayers-need-to-know-about-paying-taxes-on-their-hobby-act....

 

Either way, the OP isn't a hobby seller as they are selling off things they inherited.  For some reason being called a business seems to scare some people.  I'm unsure as to why.  We are all here to earn a little extra money or maybe a lot of extra money.  There is no shame in that.


Maybe because if you are a Business and treat your profit as Self Employment income then there is also the Self Employment Tax of 15.3% and this is in addition to what ever your Income Tax would be.

 

I do not think that as a Hobby Seller, selling Inherited Property or Capital Gains you will be required to pay Self Employment Tax.  

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@mam98031 wrote:

@stephenmorgan wrote:

@josiesjewels wrote:

I am not a business, I am selling stuff I inherited to make extra money to pay the bills. I never had a garage sale but my neighbors never mentioned having to pay taxes for having a garage sale.


 

You may want to hire a Tax Professional to do your taxes to account for the inherited items.

 

Be prepared to state when you inherited the items and what the value was at the time you inherited the items.

 

There are special Income Tax consideration's for selling inherited items.  If it something you just inherited the Taxes may not amount to much.

 

 


Maybe yes and maybe no.  The value at the time you received the inheritance is taxable under state and federal inheritance tax laws.  Then if you sell the items for above the value at the time of inheritance, that money becomes taxable less expenses.

 

So it will depend on the value of the inheritance as to how much is paid in taxes.  The OP is lucky, they are in a state that if they inherited under 4 million dollars, the state doesn't collect any inheritance taxes, but the federal taxes would of course still apply.


Yes, exactly.  

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Maybe I should try to create the long-sought Sarcasm Font.  It's been needed for a couple decades now, and not only on eBay.  Here's my sentence again:

I bet there will be two or three posts frantically explaining how 1099Ks are "illegal" and in fact "forbidden" by some irrelevant sentence in the US Constitution and how all sellers must join the posters in a High Class Action Suite against eBay, those evildoers.  

Yes -- indeed -- sarcasm was intended.  I think the words "frantically explaining" and the quotes around "illegal" and "forbidden" should have been the obvious giveaways.  Not to mention "irrelevant sentence in the US Constitution," and repetition of the phrase, "High Class Action Suite", that brought a lot of hilarity to this board a few years ago.   Ooops, though, I did not put quotes around "evildoers."  I should have.  

I must have stepped on some toes.  I apologize for trying to bring chuckles or smiles.  Can't please everyone.  

But I still think I am right that a few people will come to these boards ranting and raving that the 1099K is all kinds of illegal and immoral and fattening, and and threatening all kinds of bad things, starting on February 1, 2023.  

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@stephenmorgan wrote:

@mam98031 wrote:

This is correct which is why you are better off filing as a business and taking deduction on the Schedule C.

 

https://turbotax.intuit.com/tax-tips/self-employment-taxes/4-tax-tips-for-money-making-hobbies/L89qz...

 

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/heres-what-taxpayers-need-to-know-about-paying-taxes-on-their-hobby-act....

 

Either way, the OP isn't a hobby seller as they are selling off things they inherited.  For some reason being called a business seems to scare some people.  I'm unsure as to why.  We are all here to earn a little extra money or maybe a lot of extra money.  There is no shame in that.


Maybe because if you are a Business and treat your profit as Self Employment income then there is also the Self Employment Tax of 15.3% and this is in addition to what ever your Income Tax would be.

 

I do not think that as a Hobby Seller, selling Inherited Property or Capital Gains you will be required to pay Self Employment Tax.  


That is after all deductions.  Hobby sellers can't take deductions.  And doubtful that IRS would consider the OP a Hobby seller anyways.


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

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"But I still think I am right that a few people will come to these boards ranting and raving that the 1099K is all kinds of illegal and immoral and fattening, and and threatening all kinds of bad things, starting on February 1, 2023.  "

 

I don't think anyone would argue that point.  Many of us have made the same prediction on other threads as there have been 100's of them on the subject.  


mam98031  •  Volunteer Community Member  •  Buyer/Seller since 1999

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26 U.S. Code § 61 - Gross income defined

(a)General definition
Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items:
(1)Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items;
(2)Gross income derived from business;
(3)Gains derived from dealings in property;
(4)Interest;
(5)Rents;
(6)Royalties;
(7)Dividends;
(8)Annuities;
(9)Income from life insurance and endowment contracts;
(10)Pensions;
(11)Income from discharge of indebtedness;
(12)Distributive share of partnership gross income;
(13)Income in respect of a decedent; and
(14)Income from an interest in an estate or trust.

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Federal inheritance tax limits are much more liberal. Also, if I’m not mistaken inheritance taxes are paid by the estate before funds are distributed.

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@theteamsetguy wrote:

Federal inheritance tax limits are much more liberal. Also, if I’m not mistaken inheritance taxes are paid by the estate before funds are distributed.


For both state and Federal?  


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Even casino winnings are taxable -

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc419

 

Guess I'm  glad I never win - just  leave enough  for about  2 gallons of SW paint so  the casino floor keep looking nice. and don't sign up for a Players card.

 

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